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So what if China has 7nm chips now, there's no Huawei it can make them 'at scale'
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Posted on 09/20/2023 8:24:22 AM PDT by FarCenter

Further escalating the rivalry between the US and China, America's Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo earlier today voiced open dismay over Huawei putting out a smartphone powered by a sophisticated 7nm homegrown processor during her visit to the Middle Kingdom.

Raimondo insisted the US administration is utilizing every available resource to thwart or slow down China's technological advancements, such as cutting the nation off from the latest American chip-making hardware and software, which could potentially have adverse implications for the States. It's one thing to stop a rival country from making or obtaining competing, top-tier components, it's another to cut off sales to your own nation's businesses.

Her comments came amid a congressional hearing held on Tuesday, during which she said China could probably not produce the advanced smartphone processor "at scale." That may be true, and the assertion may also be a face-saving effort given the lengths the United States is going to stop China manufacturing these very components.

Huawei's phone, the Mate 60 Pro, uses a domestically developed Kirin 9000S chip fabricated by China's Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp, or SMIC. This chip, said to be fabbed using a 7nm process, would indicate China is making strides in improving its domestic chip production ecosystem. Up until now, SMIC was known for making 14nm parts at best; now, judging from a tear-down study carried out by TechInsights for Bloomberg of the Mate 60 Pro, it appears China can roll out 7nm components, an achievement Uncle Sam has been battling against.

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Despite the hurdles, Huawei shows no signs of slowing down, with plans apparently underway to manufacture 15 million smartphones powered by its proprietary Kirin chips in 2023, a figure projected to rise to 70 million by 2024, as per informed guesswork from analysts Jeff Pu and Anson Tong from Haitong International Securities.

Although these numbers are dwarfed by the volume of chips produced by global leader TSMC for Apple and others, Huawei's collaboration with SMIC indicates a rapid expansion in its chip production capacity, thereby potentially altering the dynamics of the global semiconductor landscape.


TOPICS: China; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ccp; china
The comments on The Register are interesting.
1 posted on 09/20/2023 8:24:22 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter; ShadowAce; dayglored; Swordmaker

Tech Ping!....................


2 posted on 09/20/2023 8:28:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: FarCenter

China now have 1nm chips! Is true! Great progress in New Five Year Plan make it so!

/s


3 posted on 09/20/2023 8:28:49 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: FarCenter

Make and ship 600M of the new handset in 6 months and Samsung and Apple may pay attention to the little brother.


4 posted on 09/20/2023 8:29:01 AM PDT by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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To: FarCenter; rdb3; JosephW; martin_fierro; Still Thinking; zeugma; Vinnie; ironman; Egon; raybbr; ...

5 posted on 09/20/2023 8:30:54 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: FarCenter
HUNTER! Did you sell the Chinese our 7NM Manufactuing system?

Well dad they did buy a painting.....

6 posted on 09/20/2023 8:35:08 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: FarCenter

7 posted on 09/20/2023 8:39:05 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: FarCenter

There is no way to “thwart” China. The only viable strategy is to out-compete them. Americans don’t seem to have much stomach for that. They just want government to give them everything for free.


8 posted on 09/20/2023 8:45:18 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: FarCenter

Invade Taiwan. Seize Taiwan semiconductor fabrication facilities…


9 posted on 09/20/2023 8:49:27 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: FarCenter

Bkmk


10 posted on 09/20/2023 9:03:33 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: FarCenter

I posted a thread here a couple of months ago. One of China’s “homegrown” processors (desktop, not mobile) was revealed to be an intel processor with Chinese inscriptions stamped on the back. No, not a clone of an intel. An actual intel made product !


11 posted on 09/20/2023 9:15:15 AM PDT by libh8er
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Raimondo insisted the US administration is utilizing every available resource to thwart or slow down China's technological advancements...

Yeah, great third world strategy there. Thwart progress everywhere since we've got ourselves hogtied over BS issues like LGBTwhatever and DEI. We've got some real dumbasses running things here.

12 posted on 09/20/2023 11:03:54 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: ShadowAce

Thanks for the ping.


13 posted on 09/20/2023 8:40:14 PM PDT by GOPJ (President Trump: ‘How much of a kickback does Crooked Joe Biden get?’ (ransom payment Iran))
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