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To: DannyTN; Sacajaweau

Scratch a Zeeper and find a totalitarian. Danny, your little pervert leader is closing churches like Stalin and you are just fine with it. Disgusting.


9 posted on 09/15/2023 2:52:47 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: wildcard_redneck

The Russian Orthodox church, both in Ukraine and Russia, should have distanced themselves from Russia when Russia invaded Ukraine without reason.

They should have denounced the invasion. And they should have dropped Russian from their name.

To not do so, associates Putin’s murderous land grab with Christianity.


16 posted on 09/15/2023 2:59:20 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: wildcard_redneck

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/01/ukraine-asks-court-to-put-orthodox-leader-under-house-arrest.html


33 posted on 09/15/2023 3:25:52 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: wildcard_redneck
Actually the Russian invaders have done far more damage to churches, and have shown astonishing anti-religious behavior. But you just want to post Russian propaganda talking points.

A few examples:

According to religious organizations and civil society activists, Russia’s occupation authorities in Donetsk continued to harass Protestant congregations attempting to host public religious events, even if such had gained registration. They charged, for example, that the U.S. government might be funding such events, and they publicly labeled congregations “American agents.” Protestant leaders and religious experts said they attributed such activities by Russia's occupation authorities in Donetsk as attempts to undermine the strong prewar presence of Protestants in the region.

According to Forum 18, in 2021, the Russia-led Donetsk “Justice Ministry” of the so-called “Donetsk People’s Republic” released an updated “list of extremist materials” containing 97 items, some of them religious. Most publications banned by the “Supreme Court” – including Jehovah’s Witness and Islamic publications – also appeared on the list. The “Culture Minister,” Mikhail Zheltyakov, instructed all institutions under the ministry's control to publicly display the lists of banned organizations and banned publications in their institutions. According to a 2021 Forum 18 report, the “State List of Extremist Materials,” by Russia’s proxy “authorities” in Luhansk, contained 26 items: 18 published by Protestants and six by Jehovah’s Witnesses. According to numerous, credible reports, Russia’s forces in many areas burned Ukrainian-language Bibles and other religious literature.

According to IRF, as of September 22, at least 270 religious buildings and sacred places had been damaged by Russian shelling, including 71 in Donetsk Oblast, 53 in Kyiv Oblast, 39 in Kharkiv Oblast, and 40 in Luhansk Oblast.

According to a study by the Workshop for the Academic Study of Religion (WASR), a Ukraine-based NGO, Russia’s forces were responsible for the widespread destruction of religious buildings, as well as the killing, wounding, and abduction of religious leaders. The study, Religion on Fire: Documenting Russia’s War Crimes against Religious Communities in Ukraine, stated that as of November 1, nearly 350 sacred sites in the country had been destroyed since the full-scale invasion, noting that the actual number could be much higher. Most of the damaged or destroyed religious sites belonged to the UOC (179), followed by Protestant communities (108), the OCU (24), Jewish (14), Muslim (6), Roman Catholic (5), and UGCC (3) congregations. Several other destroyed buildings belonged to the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad, Karaites, and Krishna Consciousness Society. Most of those sites were houses of worship, as well as chapels, cemeteries, and other places of sacred significance for the respective communities. Most of the sites were in Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts with others in Kyiv, Kharkiv, Sumy, Mykolayiv, Kherson, and Chernihiv Oblasts. The report stated there were at least 16 cases of targeted destruction of churches, among them a historic 19th-century wooden church in Lukyanivka, Kyiv Oblast, that was deliberately targeted by tanks

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The Russians you support so much destroyed hundreds of churches, but the Russian propagandists are pretending that some churches supposedly being closed while their congregations decide which Orthodox church to align with is a giant problem.

You claim to be "digusted" but you aren't the least bit upset about what the Russians have done. Why is that?

70 posted on 09/15/2023 4:47:46 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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