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Ukraine’s counteroffensive is stalling. The West must prepare for humiliation
The Telegraph via Yahoo ^ | September 10th, 2023 | Colonel Richard Kemp

Posted on 09/10/2023 7:38:59 AM PDT by Mariner

Time is running out for Ukraine. After 18 months of war, it is no longer a question of if the Western alliance will falter, but when. Since the start, despite making many of the right noises and supplying some military hardware, France and Germany, in particular, have been reluctant partners. Their leaders have often seemed more concerned with finding an “off-ramp” for Putin than ejecting his forces from Ukraine. As well as dependency on Russian energy, a pacifist instinct among Western European political classes has led to neglect of their armed forces and a corresponding fear of escalation.

As the provider of the lion’s share of backing for Ukraine, it is the US calling the shots in this war. Yet, since the earliest days, President Biden, too, has been dragging his heels, giving just about enough military assistance to keep Ukraine fighting, but intentionally not enough to enable a victory.

Like his Western European allies, Biden has been successfully deterred by Putin’s empty threats of widening the war. Faint-hearted concerns over provoking Putin explains his failure to provide urgently-needed weapons, including combat planes and long-range missiles, and for his obstinate resistance against Nato membership for Ukraine.

Now, polls in both Europe and the US show public support for military aid to Kyiv dropping away, with one recent survey indicating that less than 50 per cent of Americans are in favour of additional funding. This at least partially reflects sluggish progress in Ukraine’s counteroffensive, which has seen only limited gains so far.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: botchedinvasion; europe; putin; russia; ukraine; war
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That Col. Kemp is a real Putinista/s
1 posted on 09/10/2023 7:38:59 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

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2 posted on 09/10/2023 7:40:59 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: Mariner

It should be obvious by now that Ukraine, its NATO-puppet Azov Nazis, Joe Biden’s corruption, Hunter Biden’s coke-and whore habit, and US deep-state proto-fascist persecution of Trump and Conservatives - are all joined at the hip.

The faster Ukraine loses, the better it will be for average Americans.


3 posted on 09/10/2023 7:43:42 AM PDT by PGR88
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“Like his Western European allies, Biden has been successfully deterred by Putin’s empty threats of widening the war.”

Note that he doesn’t give any links proving that Putin’s threats are ‘empty’. Obama certainly didn’t think that way.


4 posted on 09/10/2023 7:44:15 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Mariner

The West is humiliating itself, it doesn’t need Ukraine to do that.


5 posted on 09/10/2023 7:44:31 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: sauropod

Say what you want, I hope Russia cleans that place out and exposes the lot of them. If US pols get exposed, so be it. I don’t care who. The truth will set us free.


6 posted on 09/10/2023 7:48:49 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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Stalling? Really? Was there an Spring offensive, err, I mean summer, oh, I mean soon to be Autumn offensive?


7 posted on 09/10/2023 7:55:16 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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To: Mariner

Vietnam, Afghanistan, Ukraine. There seems to be a pattern. A losing pattern.


8 posted on 09/10/2023 7:56:06 AM PDT by Signalman
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Well everyone in the world see that its RUSSIA’s attack on Ukraine that has totally stalled. I would say failed.

They have depleted Russia’s army. The Kremlin is no begging on its knees for North Korea to send them ammunition.
THAT is humiliation!

Putin said Russia would be able to take Kiev in 2 weeks...
Well they tried.. lost 500 tanks, and did a massive retreat.

After 18 months of war against a tiny weak country like Ukraine, mighty “super power” Russia has managed to take basically nothing more compared to what they had already stolen from Ukraine back in 2014.

The only thing Russia has succeeded in doing in 18 months, is depleting its army, killing 250.000 Russian citizens (soldiers), and lost 4000 tanks - for nothing. They also managed to kill 70.000 Ukrainian civilians and military personnel.

Let all this SINK in.


9 posted on 09/10/2023 7:56:51 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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The US military is a one-trick pony...moar war is the answer to every question.


10 posted on 09/10/2023 7:56:56 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Signalman

A pattern of sticking our nose where it doesn’t belong


11 posted on 09/10/2023 7:58:58 AM PDT by bigbob (Q)
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To: Mariner
This kind of article is remarkable coming from the Telegraph.

It's come, NATO is all but dead.

Dance, sing and rub dirt in the faces of every Neocon warmonger who has been lying to this forum x 18 months!

12 posted on 09/10/2023 8:04:14 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: USA-FRANCE

How cute.


13 posted on 09/10/2023 8:05:02 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Your lies stink of flopsweat. I look forward to the day Ukraine capitulates and you and the other paid shills disappear from this website.


14 posted on 09/10/2023 8:07:03 AM PDT by Venkman
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Russia is out of ammo. They blew through 10 million artillery rounds, stockpiles built up over decades so far in this war and only have the capacity to produce1-2 million a year if they can up production at all. That is why they are trying to buy stocks from North Korea. The Russian mode of warfare is totally dependent on massive use of artillery so their ability to go on offense is now gone and Ukraines once massive quantitative disadvantage in firepower is now also gone. F16s arriving next spring will also eliminate Russia’s battlefield superiority and with control over the sky the tanks will be able to roll and Russia’s remaining artillery will be sitting ducks.

The war is only going in one direction from here on out. Russia needs to come to the table now if it wants to hang on to any of its gains. Ukraine is going to be part of NATO and the Russian Black Sea fleet is going to be a coast guard if that. On the plus side with Putin gone Russia could be economically integrated into the West and secure its new borders. Better days for the average Russian but the end of dreams of empire will be over.


15 posted on 09/10/2023 8:07:23 AM PDT by your other brother
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To: Mariner

It’s stalled. It’s failure, one that has cost around 70,000 more Ukrainian lives.


16 posted on 09/10/2023 8:09:33 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: USA-FRANCE

Ukraine is and has been a Corrupt Country. Billions of American $Dollars are
unaccounted for. Ukraine will soon have to Conscript Ukraine Youth, just as
Hitler deployed German Youth.
Eventually Ukraine people will come for Zelensky.


17 posted on 09/10/2023 8:17:34 AM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: your other brother

“Ukraine is going to be part of NATO and the Russian Black Sea fleet is going to be a coast guard if that.”

It’s rare the someone exposes their psychosis so publicly.


18 posted on 09/10/2023 8:22:01 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: PGR88

That is an excellent summary of the situation, well done.


19 posted on 09/10/2023 8:26:59 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: your other brother
"...with Putin gone Russia could be economically integrated into the West..."

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Yeah, that's what they really aspire to.


20 posted on 09/10/2023 8:27:04 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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