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1 posted on 09/08/2023 3:28:37 AM PDT by dennisw
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Obviously Elon Musk knuckled under to Vlad’s threats to take out a few Starlink satellites. And disrupt them in other ways too. Hack their computer systems? Or hack any computers in Musk’s empire of various companies.


2 posted on 09/08/2023 3:32:22 AM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to incompetence & stupidity, that which is adequately explained by malice)
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"he did refuse Kyiv's request to turn it on because - he said - he wanted to 'avoid being complicit in a major act of war.' "

yeah, but, by not turning it on he was complicit.

Isn't it horrible how someone completely uninvolved in something, has power over it. Twitter/X controlled our elections, banned our President and now Starlink controlled a war. Elon elped Zelensky get filthy rich and US poor.

5 posted on 09/08/2023 3:46:44 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop ( ~~ TRUMP is right about EVERYTHING ! ~~ )
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Taking out the Russian Black Sea fleet might look less smart in the morning when you sober up after the counter strike on your most precious cities and assets.


6 posted on 09/08/2023 4:09:49 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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Musk saved their bacon early on by linking them to Starlink when they were attacked. that was salvific. but by now they could have set up their own system which only they control. i am tiring of Zelenskyy’s pointing of fingers. either win this or go to negotiations. the meat grinder it has become is on him.


12 posted on 09/08/2023 4:42:30 AM PDT by avital2
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Be it as it may, the UA uses drones both in the air and in the water to extensively attack Russian assets across Crimea and Naval ports in Russia on the Black Sea.

Do the use Starlinks? Who knows? No one is saying.

But they do use satellite guidance, as well as preprogrammed coordinates.


13 posted on 09/08/2023 5:07:29 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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I thought Starlink was provided to Ukraine (for free IIRC) for civilian use only.

If not enabling it helps the Russkies, doesn’t that imply the Ukies are using it for military purposes?


14 posted on 09/08/2023 5:17:43 AM PDT by chrisser (I lost my vaccine card in a tragic boating accident.)
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Apparently Ukraine doesn’t own radios. You would think with the billions we send over there they would splurge.


16 posted on 09/08/2023 5:24:19 AM PDT by dgbrown
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The feds whine about Musk if the stop wasting money on illegals and other money pits they could have many Starlink satellites.


23 posted on 09/08/2023 8:05:43 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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The original claim was made in a new biography, out on September 15, in which Musk asked author Walter Isaacson: ‘How am I in this war?’

‘Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes.’

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Musk was relieved he had prevented what he believed could have been a ‘mini Pearl Harbor,’ the author said.

The decision, the book claims, was driven by a concern that a Ukrainian attack would lead to a Russian response on Crimea with nuclear weapons. That fear was spurred by Musk’s conversations with Russian officials.
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His motivations are peaceful. The world doesn’t need a nuclear war. Where are the negotiations for a peaceful settlement?


27 posted on 09/08/2023 9:16:56 AM PDT by KittyKares
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As is typical of most of the UK press coverage of the Ukraine war, this piece is a mish-mash of propaganda and outright lies. Though the piece does give Musk's side, they keep hammering the narrative that they want to sell:
But Musk denied the Ukrainian military the use of his Starlink network. When Musk switched the internet off, the drones, strapped with explosives, 'lost connectivity and washed ashore harmlessly,' Isaacson writes.

When in truth, Starlink had never been extended to Sevastopol. The Ukrainian army asked that it be extended, and Starlink said no. No one ever "turned the internet off", because it had never been turned on, at least according to Starlink and Musk. But the truth isn't as good a story as the preferred spin.

"Yeah, we wanted Starlink to extend coverage to Sevastopol to enable our internet-connected drone subs to attack the Russian fleet, and the big meanies said no." Just doesn't have the same ring to it as the lie.

Since when are US companies supposed to participate in attacks on foreign countries with whom the United Stats is not at war?

32 posted on 09/08/2023 1:46:02 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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