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1 posted on 09/06/2023 4:40:38 AM PDT by CFW
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I wonder what the warrant stated. Did they know exactly what they were going to find in the safe? Or were they just fishing around?


2 posted on 09/06/2023 4:43:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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Change your codes.

L


3 posted on 09/06/2023 4:44:13 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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Ouch, my safe manufacturer.


4 posted on 09/06/2023 4:44:19 AM PDT by Boomer One ( ToUsesn)
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Holy crap this is huge.

But I’m sure Microsoft bitlocker and telegram and others don’t have any backdoor, right??


5 posted on 09/06/2023 4:44:25 AM PDT by Tilapiafish2
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Does it really matter? Every time I’ve been to a locksmith about my gun safes, they’ve commented how opening them is only a matter of seconds.


6 posted on 09/06/2023 4:45:19 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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Trust no one!

If the FBI had a warrant, if the safe were not opened with a code, they would just force their way in and destroy the safe.

If there was a valid warrant, which they say they verified, they did the correct thing.

9 posted on 09/06/2023 4:49:50 AM PDT by marktwain
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FTA….

Including Hodge Twins tweet….

The full tweet shares more disturbing information, including that the FBI turned off his security cameras and held his girlfriend at gunpoint and put her in handcuffs.

Last week, a friend of ours was raided by the feds over J6, his name is Nathan Hughes and he’s from Fayetteville, Arkansas. Nate was raided by the FBI and arrested at gun point. His girlfriend (who just had a miscarriage) was held at gun point and put in handcuffs. The FBI turned off his security cameras, unplugged his internet, and flipped his house upside down in a search. The feds called the manufacturer of his Liberty Gun Safe and got the passcode to get into it too. All for protesting at the Capitol over 2 1/2 years ago.

He is being charged with crimes related to January 6th. He didn’t assault anyone and he didn’t vandalize anything. He is being labeled a domestic terrorist and a traitor to his country by woke leftists and the media.

Nate is just like us…he’s an outspoken American Patriot…he loves freedom, loves his country, and would do anything to preserve our rights. He’s been fighting to save our country for years now.

He’s also a small business owner with a family that relies on him.

We all know how heated this political climate is getting, but they’ve pushed too far and it’s time for people to speak up for people getting screwed by the system. BLM and Antifa can go burn down our cities and get off the hook, but Trump supporters get raided and rounded up for protesting.

Nate’s legal bills to fight these charges will be over $100,000, so we’re donating $5,000 to Nathan’s defense fund to start it out, and hope you can donate something too. Link in next tweet.
…..

Obviously, that tweet set off a flurry of social media activity and speculation about Liberty Safe, leading to the company’s acknowledgement that they had given the FBI “the access code” to Nathan Hughes’ gun safe. While it could be tempting to at least give them credit for coming clean, they were simply trying to get slightly ahead of the s**t storm - once court filings related to the raid and search are made public, they’ll clearly show that the feds made contact with Liberty and were given the/an access code. It’s not really clear whether this is an access code only for that safe or is some kind of universal backdoor access that all Liberty safes have.

Regardless, the assertion that they are committed to protecting the personal property and 2nd Amendment rights of their customers and preserving their rights is a joke. Even if there’s a valid warrant for law enforcement to search the premises, if there was no backdoor access available the feds would have had to find another way into Hughes’ safe and perhaps he would have had the opportunity to have his attorney challenge the search warrant. It’s not up to Liberty to decide whether or not a warrant being served on one of their customers is valid. If they’re so committed to their customers’ privacy and protecting their fundamental rights, they could at least go through the motions of having their own legal team fight requests for access. Even better, they can ensure that there’s no backdoor access available, period.


10 posted on 09/06/2023 4:50:03 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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My Liberty safe is now filled with concrete blocks and a note that says “F you” Liberty Safes just lost a life long customer.


12 posted on 09/06/2023 4:55:53 AM PDT by spincaster
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Unfortunately that’s true.


13 posted on 09/06/2023 4:56:26 AM PDT by gattaca (Either you will control your government, or government will control you. Ronald Reagan)
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- the FBI had a warrant. Liberty didn’t just say here ya go feds they asked for due process.
- seriously, y’all are shocked they have a universal override on a digital safe?
- IDK what the outrage is about related to Liberty. The basis for charges on, but this?


16 posted on 09/06/2023 5:03:43 AM PDT by 3RIVRS
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Weld a manual locking system on it.


17 posted on 09/06/2023 5:04:31 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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Time to start storing black powder in the safe ;)


19 posted on 09/06/2023 5:05:06 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Das dicke Ende kommt noc!)
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If your guns are in a safe, are you protecting yourself or your guns?


23 posted on 09/06/2023 5:15:18 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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I am just wondering how they knew that he had a safe and knew what brand of safe he had. Sounds like a previous illegal entry is where they got that information.


25 posted on 09/06/2023 5:18:12 AM PDT by microgood
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Sounds like the FBI made the mistake of announcing that Liberty Safe had given them the code...so we’re seeing a pathetic, but valiant, attempt at damage control here.


29 posted on 09/06/2023 5:22:46 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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Everyone opens their safe with a bad guy’s pistol in their two year old’s ear.


36 posted on 09/06/2023 5:32:27 AM PDT by Jim Noble (They don't think you know but I know that you do.)
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Changing your code means nothing. These are built-in manufacturer codes that cannot be changed by you.


37 posted on 09/06/2023 5:34:32 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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So he has a gu case with guns- big deal- he didn’t shoot anyone nor was he gonna do so! You onow who did shoot so eone though? Yep, Capitol police- shot an unarmed woman to death. You know who e,se has shot people? Antifa and blm! They shot cops and maga supporters to death. You know who didn’t bring guns to the protest with the intention of using them? Yup, MAGA supporters. Th e left however brought guns WITH THE INTENTION of using them... on unarmed protestors evidently.

How many stories of maga supporters shooting someone have there been in the last decade? Zip- zero! Yet anTifa and blm and leftist ilk have murdered numerous people


41 posted on 09/06/2023 5:45:25 AM PDT by Bob434
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This shit gotta stop. They better bring black zippable carrying devices if they ever show up at my place.

Gonna make a call to locksmith to see if there is an alternative mechanism for my two Liberties.


44 posted on 09/06/2023 5:51:52 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT)
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“Keep your firearms in a safe.”

C’mon, man.

“Gaslighting”

Don’t be a fool. Any bona fide security expert will tell you that primary safes are good for one thing:

Diversion.

Marketing & gaslighting are highly effective tools, aren’t they?


47 posted on 09/06/2023 6:00:40 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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