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400-900 dead in Maui? (40% are children)
08/31/2023

Posted on 08/31/2023 10:15:19 PM PDT by Az Joe

As I was driving home tonight, I had the radio on listening to the Catholic station here in Phoenix (1310am).

The news came on and they reported that there are at least 400 dead in Maui and more likely upwards of 800-900 and that 40% of the dead are children. The given reason for the news blackout is that they are still trying to ID the bodies.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: children; dead; deaths; fire; hawaii; maui
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To: Wayne07

If for whatever reason, you needed to disappear, these events provide an excellent opportunity. If you are not white (i.e., brown), you can reappear at the southern US border sans any sort of documents whatsoever, make up a name, tell them you’re a “migrant”, and viola! a shiny new and unblemished identity.


21 posted on 09/01/2023 1:29:01 AM PDT by Buck-Toothed Knuckle Dragger
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To: Wayne07

Maybe it is just the local gov’t incompetence?

The number of unaccounteds is still awfully high for this long after the event, the size of the area and the population involved. You say about 50 are seriously being looked for, but, do we know the status, at least if they are alive or not, of the other 338 “unaccounteds”, or not? If not, why not?

My basis of comparison is an event that was rather close to me, the Mayfield, KY tornado of Dec. 2021. It killed 57 people, so roughly half of the current Maui toll, stayed on the ground just over 165 miles, with a path width of up to 1 mile, and damaged or destroyed over 4000 structures (3778 residences) in and around Mayfield alone — this apparently doesn’t count any of the other towns hit, or structures “out in the counties”, some of which are what I’d guess you’d call “moderately rural areas”. (This was part of an outbreak that killed smaller amounts of people in other “tracks” in KY.) Power outages affected several more thousands of people more: Friends of ours who lived in Mayfield were lucky to have their home not damaged (it was really “close” — classic tornado “houses gone one one side of the street, ok on the other side”.) But they had to evacuate for over a week because: No power, no heat, no water, and they were ill-prepared. I’d guess over 10k people were displaced. Some fairly substantial swaths of cell service went out, too.

Fortunately, there were fewer deaths than Maui, primarily because the warnings were good, and people in this region are generally aware of the risk. Plus, more often than not, if one shelters properly in a house that’s destroyed by a tornado, chances of survival are much better than if you get trapped in a structure that burns down, a car in a fire, etc.

But, still, large numbers of people were displaced by this storm in quite a large area, sometimes widely scattered.
Yet there were never such large numbers of people unaccounted for, and even those numbers dropped rapidly in a few days to almost none. Certainly, after 2-3 days there were few of these “unaccounted for but not really” that you dismiss. What is that gray area, anyway? And why such a big difference? Are the low-funded much-more-ground-to-cover authorities and agencies in Western KY that much more competent than the authorities in Maui? (I could readily believe that, mind you!)


22 posted on 09/01/2023 1:32:14 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Az Joe
This is so Al Gore, Zuckerberg, Klaus Schwab et all can move their WEF pals into Maui.

23 posted on 09/01/2023 1:39:47 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Az Joe

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24 posted on 09/01/2023 2:00:20 AM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accoountant, gun-totin' Grandma - multi issue voter )
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To: Az Joe

There was a rumor put out there by a video YT Maui local that nearly 200 bodies washed up on the shores of Lanai.


25 posted on 09/01/2023 3:14:39 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Nervous Tick

Agree.. doesn’t make any sense.


26 posted on 09/01/2023 4:14:21 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Nervous Tick
"But I don’t understand why the total number of dead has been so variable and so slow in being updated."

Democrats.

27 posted on 09/01/2023 4:16:51 AM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: Wayne07

You saw my news source. Why dont you call them? Id hate to be thr only one gifted with your brillance.


28 posted on 09/01/2023 5:41:32 AM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: Nervous Tick
Here is a local Maui resident, born on Maui, who is starting to sound like he is going over the edge.

Hawaii Real Estate

Interestingly, a video that I watched an hour ago on "Where are the Children?", from Eric, now can't be found, at least on my YT feed.

No matter what the authorities may say, their actions do not give me a sense that they are in control of the situation.

29 posted on 09/01/2023 5:45:02 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: momincombatboots

Yes, but the place didn’t burn down. Very little left of Lahaina and it is scorched earth and on an island not attached to the mainland USA with no quick support for power and other utilities.


30 posted on 09/01/2023 5:46:39 AM PDT by dforest
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To: texas booster
Update - here is the link to the video from Eric that I spoke of above:

A Message to the WORLD about the Missing & Forgotten Children of the Lahaina Maui Fire

I have no knowledge of the situation other than Free Republic and a couple of Hawaiian news outlets.

The whole situation seems strange.

31 posted on 09/01/2023 5:48:12 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Nervous Tick
I don’t understand why the total number of dead has been so variable and so slow in being updated.

Government agencies are inept and inefficient and too large and too expensive and don't work.

32 posted on 09/01/2023 5:50:47 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: rellic

I wonder how many of those people who are missing will end up “voting” in next year’s election.


33 posted on 09/01/2023 6:00:26 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: Az Joe

Can’t get the families to sell? Kill the heirs and wait ‘em out. Problem solved.


34 posted on 09/01/2023 7:30:32 AM PDT by Mathews (I have faith Malachi is right!!! Any day now...)
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To: Az Joe

DEW


35 posted on 09/01/2023 7:48:39 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

?? little help


36 posted on 09/01/2023 8:20:21 AM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: Az Joe

Did I tell ya how my corvette almost got burned up?.
Joe Biden


37 posted on 09/01/2023 8:44:07 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Vaduz

I bet he had a bad sunburn one year too!


38 posted on 09/01/2023 9:54:17 PM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: Az Joe

He better get use it it it’s gets worse in hell.


39 posted on 09/02/2023 7:42:38 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Az Joe
The given reason for the news blackout is that they are still trying to ID the bodies.

Uh Huh. You know damn well if Trump were in the White House they would be calling him "Child Killer".

40 posted on 09/02/2023 7:44:45 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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