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Shooter in Deadly Jacksonville Dollar Store Attack Purchased Guns Legally Despite Being Held for Mental Health Reasons
TheMessenger ^ | 8/28/23 | Luke Funk

Posted on 08/28/2023 9:06:05 AM PDT by Callahan

The man who killed three people in a racist shooting in a Jacksonville Dollar General store had legally purchased the guns despite previously being involuntarily institutionalized for mental health issues, the sheriff said.

Sheriff T.K. Waters called Ryan Christopher Palmeter, 21, a “maniac” but there was nothing that could have stopped him from owning firearms.

“There was no flag that could have come up to stop him from purchasing those guns,” Waters said at a Sunday news conference. “They were 100% legal.”….

(Excerpt) Read more at themessenger.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; fakenews; florida; jacksonville; mentalhealth; shooting
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1 posted on 08/28/2023 9:06:05 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan
Apparently, the POS lied on his 4473. See question 11(f):


2 posted on 08/28/2023 9:08:49 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Callahan

Thanks to Red Badger for providing this link:

“Jacksonville Sheriff: Guns Don’t Cause Shootings, ‘Wicked’ People Do”

https://www.dailyfetched.com/jacksonville-sheriff-guns-dont-cause-shootings-wicked-people-do-watch/


3 posted on 08/28/2023 9:13:56 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: NorthMountain

Well, there’s always one.
Look at who gave him the OK. Charge them.


4 posted on 08/28/2023 9:16:19 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (MURDER IS MYRDER)
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To: Callahan

Someone post that Bart Simpson “Say the Line” meme with Bart wearing an FBI hat.


5 posted on 08/28/2023 9:17:18 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Callahan

He had a PA-15 milled lower from Palmetto Arms. Bet you soup to nuts that Palmetto Arms gets sued and this becomes justification for banning ghost guns.


6 posted on 08/28/2023 9:17:22 AM PDT by struggle
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To: Callahan
In 2017, Ryan Christopher Palmeter was committed under the Florida Baker Act, which allows family members to involuntarily detain and institutionalize loved ones for emergency mental health services.
7 posted on 08/28/2023 9:18:53 AM PDT by Sooth2222 (“Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérite.” /"Every nation has the government it deserves.” )
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To: NorthMountain

Background check database fails again.


8 posted on 08/28/2023 9:21:13 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Callahan

Gun control is fail.


9 posted on 08/28/2023 9:22:41 AM PDT by exnavy (Grow your faith, and have the courage to use it.)
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To: Callahan

Is this the same Jacksonville shooting where the shooter released a manifesto, yet just like Nashville, authorities refuse to release it.

This is just more Fake News. We are being lied to by the press and the authorities.


10 posted on 08/28/2023 9:24:30 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: NorthMountain
Probably not. On the current form, see page 5 of the instructions.

Exceprt,

Question 21.h. Adjudicated as a Mental Defective: A determination by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority that a person, as a result of marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease:

(1) is a danger to himself or to others; or (2) lacks the mental capacity to contract or manage his own affairs. This term shall include: (1) a finding of insanity by a court in a criminal case; and (2) those persons found incompetent to stand trial or found not guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibility.

Committed to a Mental Institution: A formal commitment of a person to a mental institution by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority. The erm includes a commitment to a mental institution involuntarily. The term includes commitment for mental defectiveness or mental illness. It also includes commitments for other reasons, such as for drug use. The term does not include a person in a mental institution for observation or a voluntary admission to a mental institution.

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In 2017, Ryan Christopher Palmeter was committed under the Florida Baker Act, which allows family members to involuntarily detain and institutionalize loved ones for emergency mental health services.

The sheriff reported that Palmeter, who was 15 at the time, was held for 72 hours and then released without further involuntary detainment.

Apparently since he was a minor institutionalized by his parents, and presumably the doctors didn't see him as a danger, he fell through the cracks. Don't know if the relevant age of majority was 18 or 21 but too bad the issue wasn't revisited.

11 posted on 08/28/2023 9:24:39 AM PDT by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

They haven’t released this guy’s manifesto either. I hope they don’t ever or for a long time.


12 posted on 08/28/2023 9:26:33 AM PDT by Tilapiafish2
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To: V_TWIN

Interesting the article left that out. It pinpoints the cause, the individual not the firearm.


13 posted on 08/28/2023 9:26:54 AM PDT by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed.)
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To: Callahan

Sure is a lot of press lately about a racist white man killing three blacks.

But had it been a racist black man who killed three blacks?

~~~crickets


14 posted on 08/28/2023 9:27:10 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: exnavy
Gun control is fail.
"Gun control" laws are designed to fail.

TPTB aren't interested in control...

...their goal is prohibition.

15 posted on 08/28/2023 9:28:42 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Sooth2222

Hmm. In 2017 Palmeter was a minor. Under age.

I’m guessing that Baker Act detail was expunged.


16 posted on 08/28/2023 9:29:30 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: NorthMountain

Well lying on a form is totally fine just ask Hunter Biden


17 posted on 08/28/2023 9:31:02 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: V_TWIN

The sheriff is right..!


18 posted on 08/28/2023 9:31:30 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SJackson

Sheriff Waters is newly elected......so far so good. 🤞


19 posted on 08/28/2023 9:32:48 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

No lies. He wasnt involuntarily committed so he passed all requirements for mental health.


20 posted on 08/28/2023 9:33:07 AM PDT by Tilapiafish2
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