That is very true.
The thing is - what are the alternatives for Ukraine and for Ukraine supporters respectively?
For Ukraine - the opinion of the ordinary Ukrainian refugees we helped is that Putin can’t be trusted to just stay at the territory he has grabbed so far - he already claimed all of Zaporizhia and Kherson oblasts. They believe that if they signed an armistice now, then Putin would return in a few years when world attention is elsewhere and he would grab more, returning them to war. So they say this is the only option.
For Ukraine’s supporters -
1. Stop all weapon transfers - ok, well and good, but the Ukrainians are still going to keep fighting. Putin may or may not keep the land he has - but either way the fighting continues and worse - if he gets it, then that opens the door for every other country to grab land by force
2. Send more weapons - again, fraught with danger, but there is a possibility that the Russians overthrew Putin as they overthrew the Tsar in 1917 (that is a possiblity for #1 as well of course)
3. Keep the status quo - which is what we are doing.
How can you live with yourself just typing out comments when Ukrainians are dying by the hundreds every day? Why aren’t you there with your brothers and sisters fighting the orcs? Shame.
“...what are the alternatives for Ukraine and for Ukraine supporters respectively?”
Problem is that when the Soviet regime fell in 1991, and the Ukraine wanted independence, they dared the Soviets to do anything about it and Russia was so disorganized trying to go one direction they didn’t say or do anything. (Kind of like our republican party of today)
In 2014 Russia decided they wanted the Ukraine, along with a few other separated countries some of which they have already “annexed,” and since the Ukraine was prosperous, back. So the Ukraine said put up or...back in 1991, and it has come to blossom. Sometimes you don’t really want what you get.
For Ukraine - ...stay at the territory he has grabbed so far... I don’t believe he ever considered an end game to the retrieval of all that was lost in the early 90’s. He wants it all back and he finally got around to the Ukraine. There’s more holes to play on that course. Which is one of the reasons we never should have gotten into the mix. We will have to supply huge dollars and weapons stashes for possible a couple of generations.
For Ukraine supporters - ...but there is a possibility that the Russians overthrew Putin as they overthrew the Tsar in 1917
Wagner, the best they have, couldn’t. It’s going to take a he— of an uprising do get that done
The status quo is finally dawning on people that it is unacceptable as it breeds more death and aids China in their growth into a world rogue more than they already are. And that’s all it helps. It isn’t going to stop Russia, it is going to drain us of funds and resources, and it is costing the taxpayers their shirts to support a country that most people don’t know why our government is so concerned about. And they never will. Just causes less presents at Christmas. The US has sent over $60B in aid to the Ukraine and I don’t think there is a number on the weapons. But they didn’t come cheap. That would buy a lot of Nativity Scenes.
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