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To: ought-six
You are saying "By death came man." But the Bible inarguably says, "By man came death."

And it is for that truth is why a Savior from sin and death is needed. FRiend, you cannot have both. You are not reasoning very well, certainly not well enough to be heard again.

You have no fact and you have no faith. Now, translating Paul's God-inspired epistle to the dispersed Jews of Hebrew origin, he says, "Without faith it is impossible to please God."

Where does that leave you as a theorist?

68 posted on 08/24/2023 11:12:57 PM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live. To live is to teach another. Fiat Lux!)
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To: imardmd1

Were those that died before Jesus saved? I’ve never seen a compelling biblical argument that they’d not be. And it ignorance is death, then what makes you so special? Nothing for just buying the theism. But sheer chance.


69 posted on 08/24/2023 11:31:46 PM PDT by Tilapiafish2
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To: imardmd1

“You are saying ‘By death came man.’ But the Bible inarguably says, ‘By man came death.’”

So, your argument is that there was no death before man. The dinosaurs will be glad to hear that, as will the myriad other creatures and life forms whose fossilized remains have been found over millenia. Oh, wait: They can’t hear that; they are dead.

“And it is for that truth is why a Savior from sin and death is needed.”

Oh, so no one has died since Jesus Christ? That would explain overpopulation.

“FRiend, you cannot have both.”

You are assuming I am claiming both. You sound like a leftist, or a religious fanatic, as you assume things too readily, jump to conclusions, and rush to judgment.

“You are not reasoning very well, certainly not well enough to be heard again.”

Nice try, kid. It is YOU who doesn’t reason well. You said that death came about as a result of man (”By man came death). Thus, you are saying that there was no death prior to man; but because of man, death came upon the world (i.e., man is the sole cause of death and bears sole responsibility for death). And you say that I can’t reason well? ‘Tis to laugh.

“You have no fact and you have no faith.”

Au contraire. I have both. You see, if one believes in something, one must necessarily have faith that that belief is true; or else one is just navel-gazing.

“Now, translating Paul’s God-inspired epistle to the dispersed Jews of Hebrew origin...”

How do you KNOW that Paul’s epistle was God-inspired? Either you have some direct, first-hand knowledge of that divine inspiration, that was unique to Paul; or you have to conclude that Paul was divinely inspired because EVERYONE is divinely inspired.

“Where does that leave you as a theorist?”

Far closer to reality than you are.


78 posted on 08/25/2023 5:19:17 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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