Posted on 08/23/2023 2:21:08 PM PDT by Mariner
Tragedy has almost as many definitions and meanings as it has actual examples.
In terms of foreign policy, tragedy can mean a collision of two seemingly valid principles that come into conflict. In Vietnam, the noble aim of bringing some measure of peace, stability and justice to a war-ravaged country was unachievable under the guise of preventing the spread of "Godless, monolithic communism."
Tragedy is also inevitable when the obvious best outcome has no chance of surviving the brutal realities and harsh conditions required to end a conflict or war. Ukraine is the clearest example, as this tragedy continues to devastate that country and take too many lives of its citizens and Russian occupiers. The reasons are self-evident.
Ukraine wants its sovereignty and territory restored and Russian invaders expelled. For that to happen, at least one miracle is needed. Ukraine could shatter Russia's defenses, forcing its army to surrender or leave. For the time being, that outcome does not seem likely. Of course, Russian morale could collapse and its army could disintegrate.
Russian President Vladimir Putin could change his mind or be replaced with a leader who is prepared to abandon this "special military operation." As the German generals failed to assassinate or arrest Adolph Hitler, Putin seems very secure. Further, to the degree polls are reliable in Russia, Putin enjoys support from a majority of his citizens. Despite Western naysayers, unless or until Putin does leave his post, this possibility must be considered very unlikely.
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They know they've been beaten.
“Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has repeatedly rejected exchanging peace and NATO membership for land. Yet, realistically, what options does he have? While the United State and NATO have promised support “for as long as it takes,” how long is that? In the United States, public consensus is eroding. Two Republican presidential aspirants have said they would end that war if elected.”
He forgot to mention 71% of the Republican rank and file voters oppose any further aid.
In before the pompon wavers arrive.
“As distasteful as it sounds, thinking the heretofore unthinkable may be the only way to end this tragedy that at least gives Ukraine a fighting chance to survive. And that itself is a further tragedy.”
I don’t think they’ll be here for this one.
Tragedy,
When the feeling’s gone, and you can’t go on, It’s tragedy
Any such thing as a Ukrainian IRA or like our Puerto Rican nationalists?
This is fake Kremlin news! Ukraine is on da verge of glorious viktory over Mother Russia!! We shall break out in traditional Slavic song and dance routine to celebrate our achievement while Putin dies from miserable cancerous death!
I’m sure we’ll find out
“They know they’ve been beaten.”
Good. If these TRUMP HATERS are finally beaten, then perhaps they will FINALLY be dispatched and the West can start rebuilding relationships with other countries, rather than being toothless bullies.
I’ve been saying for a year and a half that Ukraine will probably lose the war but win the peace. And that, perhaps, in the future, will give Ukraine ultimate victory. There are historical examples of this kind of scenario as well as modern ones.
Well, we’ll see.
“I’m sure we’ll find out.”
Only for a day. Then the MSM will switch to something else.
Cry me a river.
It wasn’t that long ago that genocide of the Donabass people was quite thinkable.
Enough to talk about it on TV.
Behavior has consequences.
End the aid to Ukraine. End the indirect aid to Russia by drill baby drill and mine baby mine.
“Two Republican presidential aspirants have said they would end that war if elected.”
But all the establishment candidates are still all in?
Many thanks to FReeper Haddit for posting the full transcript of the 52 minute Tucker Carlson interview with Colonel Douglas MacGregor here:
FULL TRANSCRIPT of Tucker's interview with MacGregor posted to FR here
PS: I think Haddit TYPED IT UP because there's an apology for a mispelling of MacGregor and I see Nuland is spelled Newland. THAT is a LOT of work! I don't care about the typos - this is not a complaint. It's gratitude! THANK YOU, Haddit!
“But all the establishment candidates are still all in?”
Sadly, yes.
Unless somebody hedges in the debate tonight.
They need Corn-Pop in a bad mood, and more money.
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