Great, make it so, the quicker the better…..I still think Vlad needs to get unconditional surrender to put this war to an end, forever.
That does not sound like a deal Putin would accept, especially if he is winning the war.
“to put this war to an end, forever.”
War ended between Germany, Poland, Ukraine, and Russia forever? Good luck with that.
Was your mother bitten by a Ukrainian or something?
It was always irrelevant.
But Holland announced today that they are giving Ukraine 42 F-16s.
“I still think Vlad needs to get unconditional surrender to put this war to an end, forever.”
Of course you do. You are perhaps the most vocal pro-Russia/anti-Ukraine supporter on FR. I would be surprised if you didn’t call for unconditional surrender.
This article was actually published Aug 19th, not 20th.
And I posted it yesterday.
And as late as today Search still works:)
Anybody know the ticker on that?
So, Summy, Kharkov, Poltava and Kremenchug, then a cross the Dneiper and straight toward Moldova. That would be enoght to make the point.
Should have called Captain Obvious sooner.
“Nato appears to have abandoned hopes of a Ukrainian victory. Speaking in Norway, secretary general Jens Stoltenberg’s chief of staff, Stian Jenssen, said that a peace deal might involve Kyiv ceding territory to Russia in return for Nato membership.”
Sounds like he’s halfway there, but of course, Ukraine in NATO, whether overtly or covertly, is a non-starter for Russia.
In any case, nice to see some PROGRESS for peace.
....did anyone ever figure out why we’re in the Ukraine?
It’s what they always want Israel to do.....land for peace. Why are they so outraged about Kiev having to do it?
The G-7 statement at the Vilnius Summit commits those Countries to the Ukrainian cause. 16 Nations have signed on so far. That gets around a potential veto from one weak link within NATO (like Hungary, for instance).
Here is what they committed to (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/07/12/g7-joint-declaration-of-support-for-ukraine/ ):
“ 12 July 2023 17:10
G7: Joint declaration of support for Ukraine
We, the Leaders of the Group of Seven (G7), reaffirm our unwavering commitment to the strategic objective of a free, independent, democratic, and sovereign Ukraine, within its internationally recognized borders, capable of defending itself and deterring future aggression.
We affirm that the security of Ukraine is integral to the security of the Euro-Atlantic region.
We consider Russia’s illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine to be a threat to international peace and security, a flagrant violation of international law, including the UN Charter, and incompatible with our security interests. We will stand with Ukraine as it defends itself against Russian aggression, for as long as it takes.
We stand united in our enduring support for Ukraine, rooted in our shared democratic values and interests, above all, respect for the UN Charter and the principles of territorial integrity and sovereignty.
Today we are launching negotiations with Ukraine to formalize — through bilateral security commitments and arrangements aligned with this multilateral framework, in accordance with our respective legal and constitutional requirements — our enduring support to Ukraine as it defends its sovereignty and territorial integrity, rebuilds its economy, protects its citizens, and pursues integration into the Euro-Atlantic community. We will direct our teams to begin these discussions immediately.
We will each work with Ukraine on specific, bilateral, long-term security commitments and arrangements towards:
a) Ensuring a sustainable force capable of defending Ukraine now and deterring Russian aggression in the future, through the continued provision of:
● security assistance and modern military equipment, across land, air, and sea domains – prioritizing air defense, artillery and long-range fires, armored vehicles, and other key capabilities, such as combat air, and by promoting increased interoperability with Euro-Atlantic partners;
● support to further develop Ukraine’s defense industrial base;
● training and training exercises for Ukrainian forces;
● intelligence sharing and cooperation;
● support for cyber defense, security, and resilience initiatives, including to address hybrid threats.
b) Strengthening Ukraine’s economic stability and resilience, including through reconstruction and recovery efforts, to create the conditions conducive to promoting Ukraine’s economic prosperity, including its energy security.
c) Providing technical and financial support for Ukraine’s immediate needs stemming from Russia’s war as well as to enable Ukraine to continue implementing the effective reform agenda that will support the good governance necessary to advance towards its Euro-Atlantic aspirations.
In the event of future Russian armed attack, we intend to immediately consult with Ukraine to determine appropriate next steps. We intend, in accordance with our respective legal and constitutional requirements, to provide Ukraine with swift and sustained security assistance, modern military equipment across land, sea and air domains, and economic assistance, to impose economic and other costs on Russia, and to consult with Ukraine on its needs as it exercises its right of self-defense enshrined in Article 51 of the UN Charter. To this end, we will work with Ukraine on an enhanced package of security commitments and arrangements in case of future aggression to enable Ukraine to defend its territory and sovereignty.
In addition to the elements articulated above, we remain committed to supporting Ukraine by holding Russia accountable. This includes working to ensure that the costs to Russia of its aggression continue to rise, including through sanctions and export controls, as well as supporting efforts to hold to account those responsible for war crimes and other international crimes committed in and against Ukraine, including those involving attacks on critical civilian infrastructure. There must be no impunity for war crimes and other atrocities. In this context, we reiterate our commitment to holding those responsible to account, consistent with international law, including by supporting the efforts of international mechanisms, such as the International Criminal Court (ICC).
We reaffirm that, consistent with our respective legal systems, Russia’s sovereign assets in our jurisdictions will remain immobilized until Russia pays for the damage it has caused to Ukraine. We recognize the need for the establishment of an international mechanism for reparation of damages, loss or injury caused by Russian aggression and express our readiness to explore options for the development of appropriate mechanisms.”
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This post is a dupe and somehow found its way to Front Page news.
Here’s the original
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4176288/posts
It's Russian restraint that has prevented WW III or nuclear war.