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U.S. Navy Decommissions 5-Year-Old Littoral Combat Ship USS Sioux City
gCaptain ^ | August 15, 2023 | Mike Schuler

Posted on 08/16/2023 6:22:39 AM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: artichokegrower

These Ships should have never left the drawing board, but politicians were convinced to fund these little crappy ships and then ordered the NAVY to find a mission for them! They are completely useless in a Carrier Strike Group, they are very limited range and payload and can’t operate independently for more than 2 weeks.

The NAVY convinced itself these little crappy ships could replace the Perrys, even rushed their decommissioning after they lost their single-arm missile launcher to give additional funds to this failure.

I say “Strip them of all useful components and sink them all as targets or reefs.”


81 posted on 08/16/2023 7:57:42 AM PDT by Trueblackman (Redefeat Biden in 2024. )
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To: Trueblackman

Not everything needs to be in a carrier group.

What the USN needs now (in part) is a lot of new upgraded Perry class ships - a not too fast, fairly long ranged, fairly well armed patrol and escort vessel with excellent communications and sensors. The old Perry’s wont do as they are too old by now.

The Perry’s were quite popular abroad.


82 posted on 08/16/2023 8:09:06 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: rlmorel

You wrote:
The story is that US Navy is cutting its losses on this class of vessels. They were poorly designed, and they performed poorly

Not only that, the maintenance costs were huge on it.

I think they’re doing the right thing. This is a classic case of when you were in a hole, stop digging

They are undoubtedly catching heat for doing so, and they are deserving of that, but it is a lemon that cannot be squeezed.
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And they are being replaced with Constellation Class frigates. Which is a much better design.


83 posted on 08/16/2023 8:11:19 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the beast and steal its food!)
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To: hillarys cankles
You see that same dynamic in government and also education.

Some decades ago, when I worked for a state university, I was ordered to re-do a budget I had prepared in order to spend more money, quite a bit more, actually. We needed to spend as much as the previous fiscal.

It didn't matter what I bought, it just needed to cost a lot and then of course a fictional justification.

84 posted on 08/16/2023 8:14:21 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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To: artichokegrower

Must have needed to upgrade Windoze.


85 posted on 08/16/2023 8:28:09 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
And they are being replaced with Constellation Class frigates. Which is a much better design.

"According to a Defense Department fact sheet, Constellation-class frigates are intended to conduct anti-air, anti-surface, anti-submarine, electromagnetic warfare and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance operations."

Constellation-Class Frigate Program Includes ‘Game-Changing’ Sustainment Technology, Official Said (nationaldefensemagazine.org)

86 posted on 08/16/2023 8:29:04 AM PDT by Keflavik76 (The Republic is gone. The Empire remains.)
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To: artichokegrower

Bkmk


87 posted on 08/16/2023 8:31:50 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: buwaya
Perfectly understandable that we would decommission or mothball ships as part of the demobilization of the military after WWII. We brought back some battleships for Vietnam for shore bombardment, a mission they were designed for.

Retrofitting ships is another matter. The costs may not be worth it.

88 posted on 08/16/2023 8:36:54 AM PDT by kabar
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To: nuconvert

I don’t know why they didn’t think of this before.
Just imagine the money that could be saved if the Navy got rid of all of their ships.
Brilliant!


89 posted on 08/16/2023 8:41:36 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: artichokegrower

last i read, the engine transmissions for these boats were faulty AND unfixable ...


90 posted on 08/16/2023 8:52:11 AM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: Trueblackman

I read they suck so it may be better to send to Ukraine to let Russian navy decommission it for us.


91 posted on 08/16/2023 8:54:08 AM PDT by wgmalabama (Censored !)
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To: Jonty30

“I can only guess that it’s a test ship to see how it performs. They are finished testing it, so they are now decommissioning it. They should give it to the Coast Guard, so it is designed for to patrol the US coast.”

your guess is wrong ... if you had read the article you’d know they’re decommissioning nine of them ... furthermore, this whole class has been a boondoogle and disaster from day one ... the two-engine transmissions are faulty and apparently unfixable ... these boats basically don’t work, and the cost to TRY to operate them is astronomical, which is why the navy is dumping them and also why no other service is ever going to want to try to operate them ...


92 posted on 08/16/2023 8:55:33 AM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: artichokegrower

The town of Sioux City didn’t need Navy protection anymore so the ship is gone.
The waters of the Missouri are safe now.


93 posted on 08/16/2023 8:58:29 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: artichokegrower

The Little Crappy Ships were a bad idea from the start. They’re too small to be effective.


94 posted on 08/16/2023 8:59:41 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Candor7

Be that as it may be, the LIttoral ships are rusting piles of crap. They aren’t worth the cost and upkeep.


95 posted on 08/16/2023 9:13:04 AM PDT by proud_dad_of_two (Formerly MikefromOhio (I couldn't remember my password and lost the email account too!))
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To: wgmalabama
I read they suck so it may be better to send to Ukraine to let Russian navy decommission it for us.

This sounds like a win for everybody. Admiral level kind of thinking.

96 posted on 08/16/2023 9:15:03 AM PDT by Keflavik76 (The Republic is gone. The Empire remains.)
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To: Fai Mao

I have been following it...it seems like a good design.


97 posted on 08/16/2023 9:30:07 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: bigbob

Literally, and littorally.


98 posted on 08/16/2023 9:30:49 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: KC Burke

There done. Total waste if the anti sub intent is abandoned.


99 posted on 08/16/2023 9:31:12 AM PDT by e_castillo
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To: KingLudd

“but you’ve got to get it home that day”

Just go to the local pub and offer a 1/64th share of the booty to any able-bodied seaman who will join your piratical endeavors. That works in the movies.


100 posted on 08/16/2023 9:33:36 AM PDT by Boogieman
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