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Ukrainians Begin to Despair as Bloody Counteroffensive Yields Small Gains
Libertarian Institute ^ | 10 Aug 23 | Kyle Anzalone

Posted on 08/13/2023 2:23:42 PM PDT by delta7

According to the Washington Post, many citizens of Ukraine are adopting a darker mood about the war with Russia, and national unity is beginning to fray. The change in sentiment comes as Kiev’s spring counteroffensive fails to retake significant territory despite surging casualties.

“Ukrainians, much in need of good news, are simply not getting any,” the Washington Post reported Thursday. One Ukrainian, Alla Blyzniuk, interviewed by the outlet, said, “[before] people were united.” Now, she described, a sense of collective “disappointment.”

The sense of despair is driven by massive casualties in Kiev’s counteroffensive. Blyzniuk said that most soldiers sent to the front die in just two to three days. Last week, Politico reported that Kiev had committed 150,000 troops to fight along three fronts. Nevertheless, the Pentagon admits that Ukrainian forces have failed to make any significant gains.

Washington publicly claims it has provided Kiev with everything Ukraine needs to wage a successful counteroffensive. However, Western officials admitted to the Wall Street Journal that Ukrainian forces lacked critical equipment. “When Ukraine launched its big counteroffensive this spring, Western military officials knew Kyiv didn’t have all the training or weapons—from shells to warplanes—that it needed to dislodge Russian forces.” The report continued, “But they hoped Ukrainian courage and resourcefulness would carry the day. They Haven’t.”

Anna Oliinyk, a Ukrainian soldier, told the Post that she hoped the losses would be worth the price. “We’ve got all these guys coming back from the front line without limbs,” she said. “I want the price they paid to be reasonable. Otherwise it’s just useless, what they went through.”

Anna’s husband, a Ukrainian soldier who lost a leg, told the Post he would not enlist if he could make the choice again, adding that Kiev is sending untrained soldiers to the front lines. “They are taking everyone and sending them to the front line without proper preparation,” he said. “I don’t want to be in the company of unmotivated people.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: angryneoconsbelow; angryruzzians; kyleanzalone; putinbots; ruzzia; ruzzians; ussr; war; zelenskyworshippers
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He has ( like many others) linked articles to Western news agencies. So the West is finally singing a different tune, discarding the collective West’s narrative….the tune? The Fat Lady beginning to sing.

Ukraine 1991-2023 RIP, the quicker the better. The Ukie blood bath, and corrupted Joe’s welfare payments must stop.

That said, it has been reported over 150,000 fake arms and legs have been delivered to the Ukies by the collective West….a terrible price to pay for corrupted Joe’s war.

1 posted on 08/13/2023 2:23:42 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

I hope you’re ready for Niger, followed by Taiwan.


2 posted on 08/13/2023 2:26:38 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: delta7

The Democrats don’t care how many Ukrainians have to die or suffer to cover up Democrat crimes in Ukraine.


3 posted on 08/13/2023 2:29:05 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: delta7

Do you hear anyone from the Democrat party asking for peace negotiations?


4 posted on 08/13/2023 2:30:14 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: delta7

The Ukes need to read many of the posters here on FR . It’s all rainbows and unicorn regiments marching on the Kremlin if you believe Team Uke Corruption.


5 posted on 08/13/2023 2:32:11 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: delta7
it’s just useless, what they went through.

Losing limbs just to conceal the grift of Western Corruptocrats? Hard to get more useless than that.

6 posted on 08/13/2023 2:34:48 PM PDT by rhinohunter (“Being woke means you’re a loser” — Donald J. Trump)
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To: delta7

Ukraine has been set up for war since 2014 by NATO and US neocons. They will literally fight to the last Ukrainian. And when the country is empty, the WEF and neocons can re-fill the country with 3rd world migrants. Well done, Azov nationalists!

If Ukrainians want peace, the first thing they should do is turn their guns around 180 degrees and frag their NATO advisors.


7 posted on 08/13/2023 2:37:52 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: SpeedyInTexas; marcusmaximus; BeauBo; UMCRevMom@aol.com
Pro-Ukraine war-mongering trolls, is this true? I was told ad nauseam that Ukraine was totally, totally annihilating Russia. I mean, it's not even close, they are just dominating Mother Russia. Plus Pooty-Poot was dying of cancer. Please tell me that these are just Kremlin lies and gaslighting and Ukraine is totally, totally destroying Russia. See, even Joe Rogan agrees.


8 posted on 08/13/2023 2:38:23 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: delta7

Sure, says Kyle Anzalone, Author at News From Antiwar.com


9 posted on 08/13/2023 2:41:30 PM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

...but...but....but....we have been told ad nausem that the Ukes were whippin’ the Russkies collective asses, no...?? this news just cannot be true.....BTW, I am still looking for some apologies to Colonel Douglas Macgregor, Unites States Army (Retired), who has said many times the Ukes simply cannot win this war and need to sit down and negotiate some kind of peace treaty with Russia....


10 posted on 08/13/2023 2:43:01 PM PDT by TokarevM57
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To: hardspunned
--- "Ukrainians Begin to Despair as Bloody Counteroffensive Yields Small Gains"

What? What! What!

But wait!

"Update from Ukraine | Kerch Bridge is Smoking | Ukraine Liberated Urozhaine | Awesome News!"

And " Ukraine Makes ‘Tactically Significant’ Progress in Its Counteroffensive

And "Update from Ukraine | Ruzzia runs out from Urozhayne | Ukraine broke their Defense"

And "Update from Ukraine Ukrainian | Army Advancement on the south | Robotyne and Urozhaine progress"

And "Update from Ukraine | Urgent! New Landing operation by Ukraine. Ruzzia lost the positions near River"

Why, it's almost like reality doesn't quite agree with some Freepers who post a "daily thread."

So strange. So very strange.

11 posted on 08/13/2023 2:43:39 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: PGR88
Ukraine has been set up for war since 2014 by NATO and US neocons.

LOL, What a Lie! Obama refused to give weapons to Ukraine from 2014 for two years. How is that "setting up Ukraine for war"?

The Trump administration first approved the sale of Javelins to Ukraine in December 2017 -- a step that former President Barack Obama never took and that Trump allies have pointed to as a sign of Trump's toughness on Russia.

Ukraine to Get More U.S. Aid, but Not Weapons; Obama Refuses to Budge on Lethal Aid Despite Poroshenko's Passionate Plea in Congress 2014

12 posted on 08/13/2023 2:46:36 PM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: tlozo

Sure, says Kyle Anzalone, Author at News From Antiwar.com
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Well then you can view these videos of more Bradleys and Leopards turned into smoking heaps….people boo hoo Southfront, but they always have tons of video confirmation and evidence.

https://southfront.org/russian-army-fire-burns-ukrainian-equipment-across-the-front-videos/


13 posted on 08/13/2023 2:53:47 PM PDT by delta7
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To: PGR88

If Ukrainians want peace, the first thing they should do is turn their guns around 180 degrees and frag their NATO advisors.
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Surrender, Unconditional Surrender is hopefully the outcome.


14 posted on 08/13/2023 2:54:58 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Very similar reporting to what we heard around the middle of the Civil War in America.

In that case the country re-elected Lincoln because he came up with enough victories to justify it at a crucial time.

Only time will tell.


15 posted on 08/13/2023 2:55:05 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams
--- "Only time will tell."

Agree. Only time will tell.

Yup, only time will tell.

16 posted on 08/13/2023 2:56:50 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: delta7

Both of those posts are un American and absurd and it really disgusts me that things like that are posted here.
encouraging a war against nato? Insane. Hoping for surrender to Russia? Likewise.


17 posted on 08/13/2023 2:57:40 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: tlozo

Oh you’re wasting your time on them with facts? Thank you for your patience.

Just had someone post Ukraine should turn their guns on NATO. why bother reasoning with that.


18 posted on 08/13/2023 2:59:54 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

There’s a guy posting a running total of equipment losses during the war. I checked his figures 6 weeks into the great Uke counteroffensive. In those 6 weeks, according to his figures, the Russians lost twice the equipment the Ukes did. Strange indeed.


19 posted on 08/13/2023 3:06:51 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: delta7

The Institute for the Study of War site shows Ukraine made two big dents in the battlefront.


20 posted on 08/13/2023 3:11:44 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Article II, Section 2: "The President...may require the opinion, in writing,...upon any subject...")
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