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Vivek Ramaswamy repeats the leftist lie that homosexuality is 'hardwired' from birth
LifeSiteNews. Com ^ | 8/11/2023 | Doug Mainwaring

Posted on 08/11/2023 6:43:18 PM PDT by NetAddicted

These UNTRUTHs are epically at odds with the spirit of the candidate’s platform and cry out for correction.

(LifeSiteNews) — The GOP presidential hopeful who kicked off his campaign with a declaration of 10 foundational TRUTHs beginning with “God is real” recently strayed from truth when he declared that homosexuality is “hardwired” at birth and that the burgeoning number of transgendered individuals are folks who are “really just gay.”

The claims were made by candidate Vivek Ramaswamy during a recent “All-In Podcast.”

“The gay rights movement was predicated on the idea, which I’m quite sympathetic to, that the sex of the person that you’re attracted to is hardwired on the day you’re born,” Ramaswamy said.

His assertion that homosexuality is an immutable trait is based on a lie long advanced by the political left to increase unwarranted LGBT rights, including the U.S. Supreme Court’s unconscionable Obergefell decision that shredded society’s concept of marriage while throwing open the door to the plague of transgenderism.

The ‘born gay’ claim is unscientific, a myth

Studies of sexual orientation cast serious doubt on the “born that way” notion, according to a recent report by the Ruth Institute. No “gay gene” has been discovered, and studies of identical twins likewise do not support the idea that being “gay” is genetically determined.

“The findings of a recently published study explode the false narrative that being ‘gay’ is an innate condition that is controlled or largely compelled by one’s genetic makeup,” wrote Fr. Paul Sullins, a Catholic priest and former sociology professor at the Catholic University of America, in 2019.

“Rebutting decades of search by LGBT scientists for a ‘gay gene,’ the study’s first author flatly concludes ‘it will be basically impossible to predict one’s sexual activity or orientation just from genetics,’” Sullins said.

The Ruth institute report noted that even the American Psychological Association (APA) admits:

There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors [highlighting in bold by the Ruth Institute].

The APA statement concludes: “Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.”

This is an admission of absolute befuddlement by the self-described “leading scientific and professional organization representing psychology in the United States, with more than 146,000 researchers, educators, clinicians, consultants, and students as its members.”

The fact is that “born that way” is a myth and so Ramaswamy has aligned himself not with science but with Lady Gaga and her gay/trans identity anthem, “Born This Way.”

It’s an UNTRUTH epically at odds with the spirit of Ramaswamy’s platform and which cries out for correction.

Casually repeating the “hardwired at birth”/“born that way” lie is dangerous because it holds a not-insignificant portion of the populous hostage to identity politics; has led to dangerous legislative and regulatory moves such as the outlawing of therapy for those with unwanted same-sex attraction and gender confusion; and has allowed for the infiltration of often highly sexualized LGBT indoctrination in our K-12 public schools and libraries.

Full disclosure: I myself am same-sex attracted. Dating back to my earliest childhood memories, I can’t recall a time when I was not same-sex attracted, as is common for many self-identifying gays. So as a matter of personal experience it seems very much that I and folks like me are “born that way.” It’s an easy conclusion to reach, but science shows that it’s not the correct conclusion.

Robbing gays of the American dream

Embracing “born that way” leads to the tragic false narrative that insists that for the same-sex attracted, embracing homosexuality is the only path available to us, that conjugal — man-woman — marriage is unattainable, that we are acting against our nature for desiring it, and that pursuing it will be dangerous for us, our spouses, and our children.

Yet the man-woman definition of marriage — conjugal, complementary marriage — is an ensign beckoning to all, not because it is just a good idea, or the best among many. It is a bright ensign because it is the truth, undeniably displayed in nature and in each of our physical beings. We are made male and female, as complements to each other.

Here’s where the lie clashes hardest with Ramaswamy’s efforts to bring about renewal in American society: To the chagrin of many on the left, Ramaswamy frequently speaks of how he was the product of a privileged upbringing because he was raised in a stable home by his mother and father.

My parents came to this country without a lot of money, so it’s not like I was born into money. But I’ve lived the American dream because I was given two parents, with a focus on education, and a belief in God. That was the ultimate privilege that I had. And I want to make sure that every kid across this country can benefit from the same thing.

It’s not just a religious foundation. Aristotle said, ‘Great countries and great nations are built on the foundation of the household. So let’s stop incentivizing people to have single parent families … let’s cultivate a culture where we celebrate the things that make us great: Family and the nuclear family in particular.

Yet the chance of experiencing this ultimate privilege in life — as children and parents alike — is undermined by the false “born that way” narrative. Two men or two women are not and never will be the foundation of a “nuclear family.”

Ramaswamy risks withholding the American dream from current and future generations and waylaying cultural renewal by insisting that gays and lesbians are “born that way.”

Bewildering ‘trans’ are ‘just gay’ comment

The candidate wandered further afield during the same podcast when he said of the booming number of trans-identifying individuals: “I think what’s happening in many cases [is] somebody who claims to be trans is really just gay.”

This is a bewildering, unsubstantiated claim, likely based on outdated stereotypes.

The male heterosexual population who identify as female do so because they suffer from autogynephilia, a term that describes males who are sexually aroused by the thought of themselves as females, or transvestic fetish disorder, which describes men who have a sexual or erotic interest in cross-dressing.

Ramaswamy’s claim is “a load of crap,” said Walt Heyer, a former transgender who reverted to his God-given sexual identity over 30 years ago and now runs SexChangeRegret.com, a ministry that helps individuals navigate out of the transgender world after “gender-affirming” medical and surgical treatments.

“His statement is totally bogus. This is what the churches think. This is what people have running through their heads,” Heyer told LifeSiteNews, yet “95% of the thousands of people that have contacted me are heterosexual.”

LifeSiteNews reached out to Ramaswamy to discuss the issues more than a week ago. Neither the candidate nor his campaign responded.
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To: NetAddicted
I thought Ramaswamy was brighter than this.

Its the sort of response that is a cliche and slogan and coming from him, sounds stupid.

To that I would ask: 38% of the freshman class of Brown University reported on a survey they are something other than "heterosexual." So where were all these "hardwired" queer kids 25 years ago?

41 posted on 08/11/2023 7:53:33 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: bigdaddy45

Vivek is right. I lived in San Francisco for ten years and had many gay friends, both men and women, Everyone in SF knows gay people because there so many of them. Many young men told stories of when they “came out” to family and friends. My best friend’s daughter was a lesbian. Mom was gorgeous, girl was not. Clearly gay from the start.

So what?


42 posted on 08/11/2023 7:53:38 PM PDT by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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To: NetAddicted

WIKI

According to some colleagues, Hudson’s homosexual activity was well known in Hollywood throughout his career, and former co-stars Julie Andrews, Mia Farrow, Elizabeth Taylor, and Susan Saint James claimed that they knew of his homosexuality and kept Hudson’s secret for him, as did friends Audrey Hepburn and Carol Burnett.

Soon after the Confidential incident, Hudson married Willson’s secretary Phyllis Gates. Gates later wrote that she dated Hudson for several months, lived with him for two months before his surprise marriage proposal, and married Hudson out of love and not (as it was reported later) to prevent an exposé of Hudson’s sexual past. Press coverage of the wedding quoted Hudson as saying: “When I count my blessings, my marriage tops the list.” Gates filed for divorce after three years in April 1958, citing mental cruelty. Hudson did not contest the divorce and Gates received alimony of $250 per week for 10 years.

Joan Rivers was quoted as saying: “Two years ago, when I hosted a benefit for AIDS, I couldn’t get one major star to turn out. Rock’s admission is a horrendous way to bring AIDS to the attention of the American public, but by doing so, Rock, in his life, has helped millions in the process.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Hudson


43 posted on 08/11/2023 7:54:05 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Article II, Section 2: "The President...may require the opinion, in writing,...upon any subject...")
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To: HamiltonJay
This guy [Vivek] is a fraud from top to bottom

I have reached a similar conclusion.

I have worked with a lot of Indians in a long career. It seemed to be a very strong cultural imperative for them to avoid being rude by telling me things they believed I did not want to hear. They did not see that behavior as deception or lying. I didn't either, but I always insisted on objective verifications after appropriate face-saving measures.

Up until now, Vivek has said all the things I wanted to hear. Of course, I never believed he meant any of them. I am not exactly disappointed, because I never trusted him in the first place. He puts on a good show.

Pretty much like every politician.

44 posted on 08/11/2023 7:54:20 PM PDT by flamberge (Everybody is going to hate it when we all play by the same "rules".)
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To: Observator
Much bigger problems than your neighbors bedroom.

If only that were true. Just today I read the (American run) World Bank cut off Uganda from all loans and economic aid because of its government's anti-LGBTQ laws.

So the Left has made it such that where one puts one's genitals is now an overriding global strategic and economic issue.

45 posted on 08/11/2023 7:58:42 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: NetAddicted

Any guess why a port city like San Francisco would become know for homosexuality?


46 posted on 08/11/2023 7:59:12 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Article II, Section 2: "The President...may require the opinion, in writing,...upon any subject...")
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To: bgill

I have continually asked that question.

NO CLEAR response from Vivek.

That tells me he is NOT NBC.


47 posted on 08/11/2023 8:03:07 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: NetAddicted

He is brighter than those FReepers that think being anti-gay in 2023 is a winning message. One can be anti-woke without being anti-gay. Trump and Vivek are examples of this. DeSantis, while rightfully going after those who seek to push wokeness on everyone, including children, has gone a bit too far with some of his ads on the matter.


48 posted on 08/11/2023 8:09:23 PM PDT by Stravinsky
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To: ridesthemiles

This issue of natural born citizenship comes up regularly here on Free Republic.

Some Freepers say, that both of your parents must have been American citizens at the time of your birth, for you to be a natural born citizen.

Other Freepers say, that as long as you were born in America, you are a natural born citizen, regardless of your parent’s citizenship. Those Freepers argue that such people didn’t have to go through the naturalization process to become a citizen, thus, they are natural born.

So which Freepers do we believe? Some threads on this subject have had hundreds of responses, with people on either side presenting evidence to support their point of view.


49 posted on 08/11/2023 8:14:55 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: NetAddicted

SIN is hardwired at birth.


50 posted on 08/11/2023 8:19:56 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: NetAddicted

quotes:

In 1969, the Stonewall Inn at 51-53 Christopher Street was well-attended but not well-liked. Writer Vito Russo described it as “a regular hell hole.”

Seymour Pine, a deputy inspector with the NYPD, was determined to close the place down because its efforts to pass as a “bottle bar”—a private club where members could leave their own bottles of liquor from which only they could be served—were insultingly desultory. On Tuesday, June 24, Pine arrested bar personnel and confiscated liquor, but as he was leaving, the bar’s owners had bragged, “We’ll be open again tomorrow.” Carter suggests that Pine was “stung” by this defiance, in part because he knew it was true. The bar reopened on Wednesday. So Pine came back in the early hours of Saturday.

A crowd had gathered outside the tavern by the time the police were ready to load up their wagons with contraband alcohol, Stonewall employees, and unhappy bar goers. When the cops started to manhandle their unruly prisoners, the onlookers became enraged, throwing coins, stones, and bottles at the officers.

by the summer of 1969, gays were more willing than ever to challenge authority, thanks to the influence of the civil rights, feminist, and anti-war movements. The Stonewall raid also occurred on the first hot weekend of the summer, at the biggest club in the area, and in a pedestrian-friendly neighborhood that had recently become home to a growing number of homeless gay youths who had no property, jobs, or family ties at risk if they faced off against the cops.

In March 1970, for example, after a police raid on the Snake Pit, a (non-Mafia) Village gay bar, a terrified young Argentine jumped out of a second-floor window and impaled himself on a 14-inch spike while attempting to escape from police custody. The GAA immediately organized a protest march and a letter-writing campaign.

An October 1982 article in New York’s feminist newspaper Womanews, reporting on the imminent closure of longtime Greenwich Village lesbian bar the Duchess, revealed the anger political activists felt at the bar: “Of the millions of dollars [the Duchess] has drained from the community on overpriced drinks and cover charges, it has consistently refused to give back even a dime to the larger lesbian community. It has refused to hold benefits, take out ads in feminist newspapers, or even allow them to be sold there, or in any way be responsive to the wishes of the lesbian community.”

On the night of June 24, 2011, a throng of first nervous and then jubilant customers gathered at the Stonewall to follow the New York State Senate’s vote on same-sex marriage.

(one guy yelled: “I’m getting married! Now I just need a boyfriend”)

https://www.slate.com/articles/life/the_gay_bar/2011/06/the_gay_bar_4.html


51 posted on 08/11/2023 8:22:35 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Article II, Section 2: "The President...may require the opinion, in writing,...upon any subject...")
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To: Brian Griffin

I heard San Francisco came to have a big homosexual community, because of major naval bases there, and that many were discharged from the navy for homosexuality in San Francisco at the navy bases there. This happened decades ago, when it was shameful to be a homosexual.

Back in those days, when it was so shameful to be a homosexual, rather than return to their hometowns in shame, the homosexual former sailors stayed in San Francisco.

That’s what I’ve heard anyway.


52 posted on 08/11/2023 8:22:36 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Stravinsky
He is brighter than those FReepers that think being anti-gay in 2023 is a winning message.

And these FReepers are brighter than those who embrace an ideology that has never worked in human history, despite it being tried dozens of times. Perhaps you don't know better than the previous forty centuries.

53 posted on 08/11/2023 8:22:51 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: All

I added FR keywords borngay, bornthisway and gaygene so you could click and read the articles on research which disproved this libiot lie.


54 posted on 08/11/2023 8:25:56 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: skimbell
So, gays are gay because they were born that way, but trannys aren't the gender that they were born, even though they were born that way?

That is the official party line - this year.

It is propaganda of course, and false. Other agendas are in play.

Homosexuality is a spectrum disorder primarily caused by environmental and hormonal stresses on the mother during weeks 8-24 of pregnancy. It weakens the development of normal sexual polarization to opposite-sex attraction, and resistance to same-sex attraction. Or it reverses the polarities to some degree.

Homosexuals can also be "made" by early and intense sexual exploitation of children, and adolescents. It depends on how strong their natural sexual polarities were before exploitation. It also depends on how skilled the exploiters may be and whether they catch their subjects at critical times where they are vulnerable to change. Results are always uncertain for any particular target. Most people cannot be turned after puberty sets in. There are always a few exceptions though.

55 posted on 08/11/2023 8:30:56 PM PDT by flamberge (Everybody is going to hate it when we all play by the same "rules".)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“natural born citizen”

The meaning of the term needs to be resolved by the courts.

My preferred meaning is not having foreign citizenship at birth.

The clause the term was in was undoubtedly intended to ensure 100% loyalty to the United States.


56 posted on 08/11/2023 8:31:15 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Article II, Section 2: "The President...may require the opinion, in writing,...upon any subject...")
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To: ridesthemiles

If he were eligible, it would state clearly in his wiki. Yep, imo, he’s not. They sure are trying to pull another obama with a 2nd one to make the requirement mute, huh.


57 posted on 08/11/2023 8:32:24 PM PDT by bgill
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To: flamberge

Well said.


58 posted on 08/11/2023 8:34:03 PM PDT by x
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To: NetAddicted

It’s possible - it’s also possible that being a rapist is hard wired from birth.

Neither reality would all for us to accept people who want to sexually mutilate children - and sterilize them. Maybe WE were born as protectors of the innocent against the evil of bullies. Just born that way...


59 posted on 08/11/2023 8:35:18 PM PDT by GOPJ (Companies that only advertise on MSNBC but won't advertise on FOX or NWSMX are 'bud light' companies)
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To: NetAddicted; All

Out of context quote....he also said “there is no gay gene”. (Abortion would get banned by leftists right after they found a “gay gene” and people started aborting based on genetic testing for it). The full interview and context here:

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-all-in-with-chamath-paliha-61290607/episode/e138-presidential-candidate-vivek-ramaswamy-in-119406397/

(Start at 1:18:12 for the topic mentioned)

or the video version starting at the topic time:

https://youtu.be/mpC6c6iYji8?t=4691


60 posted on 08/11/2023 8:36:03 PM PDT by Drago
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