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Republicans, conservatives point fingers within “yes” coalition after State Issue 1 goes down in flames
Cleveland.com ^ | August 11, 2023 | Andrew J. Tobias

Posted on 08/11/2023 11:22:06 AM PDT by Coronal

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Victory has many fathers while failure is an orphan, the saying goes. But there’s been no shortage of scapegoats floated by Ohio Republicans and conservatives this week as they look to explain why voters overwhelmingly rejected State Issue 1 earlier this week.

A popular target for blame is the Ohio business community, which was divided over State Issue 1. The business groups that endorsed Issue 1 struggled to raise in-state money, due to their apprehensions about being tied to an upcoming November ballot issue that would add abortion rights to the Ohio Constitution, prompting the “yes” campaign to tap millions of dollars national anti-abortion advocates had set aside for November.

But other possible villains include: Gov. Mike DeWine, House Speaker Jason Stephens, Senate President Matt Huffman and Secretary of State Frank LaRose. Some Republicans have blamed out-of-state interests that funded the “no” campaign, although campaign finance reports show the “yes” campaign spent a similar amount from its own out-of-state backers.

Republicans were left to process a rare election loss after Issue 1, which would have made it harder to change the state constitution, failed by a 57%-43% margin. While it overwhelmingly failed in heavily Democratic urban counties, it also failed in 14 counties that ex-President Donald Trump won in 2020.

Kyle Kondik, an Ohio native who’s an elections analyst based at the University of Virginia, has watched some of the finger-pointing on social media. He said Republicans need to accept the problem was with Issue 1 itself, noting similar proposals failed even worse last year in two more conservative states, Arkansas and South Dakota.

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1 posted on 08/11/2023 11:22:06 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: Coronal

The abortion issue is a vote loser for Republicans. Look at conservative Kansas for example. We need to leave it alone for a while.


2 posted on 08/11/2023 11:33:22 AM PDT by rexthecat
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To: rexthecat

“Conservative” Kansas my ass…


3 posted on 08/11/2023 11:45:11 AM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength. )
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To: Coronal
Why were the Ohio Republicans trying to change the Ohio constitution? Was it only because of the abortion issue? If so, it's a losing issue and will drive abortion loving women out in droves.

We won Roe. If Republicans insist on taking it further on a state by state basis, trying to legislate restricting rights that are already on the books, the Republicans will never recover. The Dems will own all 3 branches of the government, possibly by 2024 and definitely by 2030.

4 posted on 08/11/2023 12:00:02 PM PDT by CaptainK ("If life's really hard, at least its short")
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To: CaptainK

We’re the extremists. All it takes is one Linda Graham and we’re all painted with the same broad brush. Way to go leadership.


5 posted on 08/11/2023 12:05:16 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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To: CaptainK

Sheesh the Republicans were not trying to change the State Constitution. The proposal did one thing and only one thing. It would have made it so you need 60% to change the Constitution instead 50%. The left flooded Ohio with money to make about abortion and it worked. 60% is common sense if you ask me.


6 posted on 08/11/2023 12:07:43 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: gibsonguy

They were trying to change it by changing the amount of votes you need to amend. Please explain to me why the Republicans did this, if it was any reason other than the abortion issue.


7 posted on 08/11/2023 12:19:25 PM PDT by CaptainK ("If life's really hard, at least its short")
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To: CaptainK

This is yet another example of why the Republican Party is known as THE STUPID PARTY.

The intent behind Issue #1 was pretty good, but the STUPID PARTY never got their message out. They let ALL the outside money frame the issue. YES, the STUPID PARTY deserved to lose.

Dumbasses!!!!


8 posted on 08/11/2023 12:28:01 PM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Coronal

Revenge of the whores


9 posted on 08/11/2023 12:38:04 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Coronal
The "abortion" issue is the result of men, always in pursuit of easy, no-responsible sex, and they've sold it and women are now easy-peasey.

"Women's Rights" is simply having fooled them into promiscuity, with available murder to the mistakes, and men love it.

THAT is why men support abortion, and Ohio will "legalize" baby murders, as a result, in November whether you vote for it, or now.

The vote counters will make sure that the black and mixed race population is controlled.

10 posted on 08/11/2023 12:55:35 PM PDT by traditional2 (lets go B*and*n)
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To: CaptainK

That isn’t changing it, it’s making it more difficult to change it. The opposite of changing it. Yes the November abortion prop was the catalyst but l think it should take 60% to alter a state Constitution


11 posted on 08/11/2023 1:28:25 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: gibsonguy

The pro side threw in a lot of money too, from out of state.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gop-megadonor-pours-millions-into-effort-to-hinder-ohio-abortion-amendment/


12 posted on 08/11/2023 1:38:27 PM PDT by Coronal
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To: CaptainK

The party line is that was for the betterment of the state, keeping out outside interests, trannies, homos, etc.

The timing says otherwise since they broke their own “no August special election” rule to have this August special election shortly after they saw the polling for the upcoming Abortion ballot initiative to be placed on the November ballot.


13 posted on 08/11/2023 1:43:02 PM PDT by Nazu
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To: Nazu

Sorry for the grammar and capitalization error. I have fat thumbs.


14 posted on 08/11/2023 1:47:04 PM PDT by Nazu
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To: gibsonguy

Next these same people are going to say homosexuality is a losing issue.. it necessarily includes blessing child rape.. but the republicans are so far left they don’t care. The tactic you described went into high gear in 2015.
Republicans with no principles are just democrats. They believe in supporting a man who locked us down, signed blank checks to big pharma, bumpstock ban, DACA amnesty, and the final finger to the Constitution.. mail in ballots.
They support utter tyranny and oppression when the real need was rational and reasonable leadership.


15 posted on 08/12/2023 2:49:25 AM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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