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Ohio Issue 1 fails: Big cities, suburban and many rural counties voted down issue
Columbus Dispatch ^ | August 8, 2023 | Haley BeMiller

Posted on 08/08/2023 5:57:36 PM PDT by Coronal

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To: newfreep

Why is everyone acting like this was the abortion vote, this was to make it require 60% to change the state constitution instead of 50 plus one vote. It should have passed easily. A common sense Republican initiative in a red state. I’m seeing a lot of excuses that don’t add up to me. I talked to someone in Ohio yesterday and they thought it was a very likely pass. The left wanted this to go down in the worst way and those f’n machines are what are used. Is that what caused this?


61 posted on 08/08/2023 7:07:24 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: cowboyusa

Abortion is legal through six weeks in Ohio.


62 posted on 08/08/2023 7:10:17 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: windsorknot

There certainly is “grave consequences” for continuing to vote for rino trash, lol. Just a slightly slower pace to totalitarianism.


63 posted on 08/08/2023 7:11:13 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: Kazan

That may change. It is up to the States to make these decisions.


64 posted on 08/08/2023 7:13:16 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: mmichaels1970

But it’s been that way for 110 years. And all of a sudden everyone’s hair is on fire about it?


65 posted on 08/08/2023 7:15:54 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: gibsonguy

Whoever you were talking to in Ohio didn’t know what they were talking about. And Blaming everything on the machines is ridiculous.


66 posted on 08/08/2023 7:17:09 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: cowboyusa
Abortion is not in the Constitutuon, and is up to the States

And I’m talking about our STATE Constitution. And abortion will likely soon be protected in it. All any pet cause needs is a simple majority and our State constitution gets a rewrite. This is the very definition of a state defining what “rights” it wants to protect.
67 posted on 08/08/2023 7:18:17 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: bigdaddy45
But it’s been that way for 110 years. And all of a sudden everyone’s hair is on fire about it?

It should have never been this way. This was an opportunity to change that. I would have supported this issue regardless of who was trying to ram through a pet issue. I believe all constitutions should be hard to change. They set forth a framework of rights that should be protected from the whims of the mob.
68 posted on 08/08/2023 7:22:02 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: gibsonguy

“A common sense Republican initiative in a red state”

Laughing my ass off at that one. The governor Mike Dewine wants his own visa system in this state, f’n please. Go pull that handle for a rino, lol.


69 posted on 08/08/2023 7:22:26 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: cowboyusa

Best to leave Abortion up to the voters. If we lose elections there will be abortion clinics on every corner. It’s hard to take away rights once they have been granted. Majority of Americans are for first trimester abortions and exceptions for life of the mother in the late terms.

In a political organization I belong to, when there is a controversial state or local issue, we poll our our membership because it is the club’s position and in its by-laws to not officially endorse in primaries or take a position in local issues. However we publish the polls of our membership. This may sound spineless but this has served the organization well for 50 years.


70 posted on 08/08/2023 7:22:51 PM PDT by lone star annie ( )
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To: bigdaddy45

Actually I am not. It lost too badly and across the board to blame the machines. I’m just trying to figure it out because this thing should have passed


71 posted on 08/08/2023 7:23:21 PM PDT by gibsonguy (I)
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To: bigdaddy45

One of the flaws was that the way the question was crafted had many people confused. In the midst of an advertising storm urging No on One, and people being aware that this was precipitated by the abortion fight, they didn’t know which way to vote. I know well educated adults who didn’t get it, thought that voting Yes meant they were voting in favor of the abortion bill that will be on the ballot in November. In addition, the prolife side was outspent by about 5 to 1, mostly with out of state abortion money.


72 posted on 08/08/2023 7:26:36 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Coronal

Said this would go down but it went down even harder than I thought! Lol!

You gotta love Republicans. They’ve DREAMED about and campaigned and fund raised on overturning Roe v. Wade for literally a half century, it finally happens and they have NO PLAN!!

“Do you ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?” - Johnny Rotten


73 posted on 08/08/2023 7:38:17 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: OftheOhio

This was to make harder to change to Ohio Constitution and nothing more, how is that a kiss to that worthless rino DeWine?


74 posted on 08/08/2023 7:41:43 PM PDT by gibsonguy (I)
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To: americas.best.days...

SATAN’S KINGDOM COMING DOWN – FINALLY! (2 MINUTES)
https://youtu.be/T2cw3F150uo


75 posted on 08/08/2023 7:41:54 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (=uran)
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To: cowboyusa

How can you say Brown will be unseated when in the next breath you say conservatives/republicans sat back and let the left define the terms. The pro 1 forces advertised the extremism failure would cause, yet it was defeated. Would the same hold true for Brown? If LaRose is the ultimate candidate for the Republican Party in 2024, it will be easy to tag him with this issue and how he handled it for the pro choice folks.


76 posted on 08/08/2023 7:43:04 PM PDT by joesbucks (It’s called love-bombing. Claiming he’s saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: Coronal

Praise God!!


77 posted on 08/08/2023 7:43:35 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: joesbucks

Because the GOP won the Senate race in 2022, and Trump will be on the Ballot.


78 posted on 08/08/2023 7:44:30 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: Alberta's Child

Republicans we’re counting on mostly republicans turning out for this. Looks like Dems got motivated to defeat it.


79 posted on 08/08/2023 7:45:05 PM PDT by joesbucks (It’s called love-bombing. Claiming he’s saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: joesbucks

That is wh6 LaRose should not be the Canidate.


80 posted on 08/08/2023 7:45:31 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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