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Ohio Issue 1 fails: Big cities, suburban and many rural counties voted down issue
Columbus Dispatch ^ | August 8, 2023 | Haley BeMiller

Posted on 08/08/2023 5:57:36 PM PDT by Coronal

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To: Jim from C-Town
It was heavily pushed as a pro-democracy issue, instead of what it is, an assault on republican style government.

I would argue that holding a referendum in a state is unconstitutional. You can't do that on the federal level. So the same should apply to the states. We live in a republic, not a direct democracy.

121 posted on 08/08/2023 8:34:05 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Drew68

So, right thinking people need to compromise on the killing of babies? I suppose instead of killing a million a year, a half a million would be tolerable even acceptable?


122 posted on 08/08/2023 8:36:08 PM PDT by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: mmichaels1970

“We had a chance to make monkeying with a state constitution harder. To me THAT goes directly to the definition of a conservative position.”

Another laugh my ass off moment. Cause the RINOs are always looking out for conservatives, lol.


123 posted on 08/08/2023 8:38:04 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: wita
So, right thinking people need to compromise on the killing of babies? I suppose instead of killing a million a year, a half a million would be tolerable even acceptable?

You’re catching on. The acceptable number of abortions is negotiable. Never mind the line about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

124 posted on 08/08/2023 8:45:50 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: newfreep
"I mentioned this to a staffer noting Dominion’s reputation...and it fell on deaf ears."

Yeah I keep posting about Dominion machines. No one seems to understand the significance or care.

But after the election they'll claim 'it wasn't fair'.

125 posted on 08/08/2023 9:05:00 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: wita
So, right thinking people need to compromise on the killing of babies? I suppose instead of killing a million a year, a half a million would be tolerable even acceptable?

What's to compromise?

The pro-life side is losing in defeat after defeat.

126 posted on 08/08/2023 9:20:00 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins.)
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To: cowboyusa

We have about a year to try to defuse the abortion and student loan issues.


127 posted on 08/08/2023 9:45:18 PM PDT by ganeemead ( )
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To: Coronal

My rural area counties
Clark 50 50
Miami 61-38
Preble 67-33
Darke 75-25
Champaign 62-38
Shelby 78-23
Logan 65-35
Mercer 78-23
Auglaize 75-25
Clinton 66-34
Butler 50.3-49.7
Warren 53-47


128 posted on 08/09/2023 1:59:13 AM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness )
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To: MinorityRepublican

All we need is rank choice voting 😩


129 posted on 08/09/2023 2:32:40 AM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Because we have kicked GOD and HIS SON, JESUS, out of this country!!


130 posted on 08/09/2023 2:35:45 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Coronal

What does the American Catholic Church believe when the Pope, the head of the Catholic Church, entertained and did photo-ops with the biggest abortionist politicians and their donors at the Vatican before critical votes whether it be about laws or elections . It sends the wrong message to Catholics. Pope Francis certainly knows it, but he does it anyway disregarding that these pro-abortionists are against the sanctity of life. His lackluster words on the subject of abortion are little more to him than pretense.
A crucial vote in Ohio coming up and just weeks ago he is entertaining Bill Clinton, Alex Soros, and Clinton’s pro-abortion entourage at the Vatican with smiling photo shoots. The Pope is every bit a pro-abortionist and his pretense of being a pro-life Pope is a giant farce. His lack of photo sessions with any of our country’s pro-life politicians and candidates before crucial votes in the USA are few if non-existent. When he speaks out about abortion he tries to find the least critical time and the smallest and when possible the remotest audience. If he were to meet with a conservative pro-life candidate from this country its pretty much on the down-low, giving it as little public view as possible. If he meets with them at all.

The Catholic Church is dying under the Jesuits. It has been fed to the hands of soulless politicians and their donors.


131 posted on 08/09/2023 6:26:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet (Catholic-lite Equals Catholic ZERO)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Have men (in general) really become so lousy that they don’t see an alternative?”

Yes
POINT #1 - fornication and baby killing have gone hand in hand throughout history. Men throughout history (without marriage) have generally walked away from the consequences of sexual unions.

“Why are women so eager to maintain the right to destroy their unborn children?”
Talk to young women some time. Many of them can’t get a date if they’re known to believe in sex after marriage, so they do what they can to get a mate. That leads us back to point number 1.


132 posted on 08/09/2023 8:00:22 AM PDT by Varda
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To: OftheOhio

R U insane? I despise RINO’s like Mitch and the boys and l don’t know who you are talking about. This was about protecting the Ohio Constitution


133 posted on 08/09/2023 8:08:14 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: OftheOhio

R U insane? I despise RINO’s like Mitch and the boys and l don’t know who you are talking about. This was about protecting the Ohio Constitution


134 posted on 08/09/2023 8:08:27 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: gibsonguy

You keep believing. About protecting the constitution, listen to yourself. If you had read the breitbart article you might have come to a different conclusion.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/07/ohios-frank-larose-declared-himself-nevertrump-2016-called-trump-tweet-racist-2019-continued-opposition-through-2020/

I have this whisper in my ear that screams SUCKER. Like the “conservative” John Kasich trying to do away with all septic tanks in the rural parts of the state. Hope and change, lol.
https://www.change.org/p/john-kasich-draft-john-kasich-for-president-2024


135 posted on 08/09/2023 9:22:55 AM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: cowboyusa

Agree.


136 posted on 08/09/2023 2:30:50 PM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (We had enough government in 1789)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The number of people who believe that life begins at conception or a heartbeat is barely bigger than the number who support abortion of a viable fetus, and both consider it an existential issue where no compromise is permissible.

The vast majority falls in to the traditional divisions- should be legal first trimester, should be legal but with counseling and with the say so of a doctor the second trimester, and only for the life of the mother or stillborn or gravely deformed in the third trimester.


137 posted on 08/09/2023 2:34:50 PM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (We had enough government in 1789)
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To: Coronal
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138 posted on 08/17/2023 3:40:30 PM PDT by Coronal
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