Posted on 08/04/2023 12:36:48 PM PDT by Mariner
Most Americans oppose Congress authorizing additional funding to support Ukraine in its war with Russia, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, as the public splits over whether the US has already done enough to assist Ukraine.
Overall, 55% say the US Congress should not authorize additional funding to support Ukraine vs. 45% who say Congress should authorize such funding. And 51% say that the US has already done enough to help Ukraine while 48% say it should do more. A poll conducted in the early days of the Russian invasion in late February 2022 found 62% who felt the US should have been doing more.
Partisan divisions have widened since that poll, too, with most Democrats and Republicans now on opposing sides of questions on the US role in Ukraine.
A majority, but not all (68%) of those who say the US should do more to support Ukraine favor additional funding, as do 23% of those who say the US has already done enough.
When asked specifically about types of assistance the US could provide to Ukraine, there is broader support for help with intelligence gathering (63%) and military training (53%) than for providing weapons (43%), alongside very slim backing for US military forces to participate in combat operations (17%).
Republicans broadly say that Congress should not authorize new funding (71%) and that the US has done enough to assist Ukraine (59%). Among Democrats, most say the opposite, 62% favor additional funding and 61% say that the US should do more.
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It is the smoke these clowns are blowin’ that put people like you in a tizzy.
Was I talking to you?
"Not my concern, Tucker."
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UMCRevMom@aol.com, MeganC, and their propagandist Denys Davydov hardest hit.
That’s funny! As MeganC would say.
Seriously I think you are correct. Sad to think someone takes a job posting lies and supporting all those who are after Trump, on this site of all places.
Some of the people who post here have downright been praising Putin and crapping on America, yet they are still here posting and no one seems to be suspicious.
We will pull out to go to war in Niger or to invade Mexico.
Or both.
Just like we slam bammed out of Afghanistan.
Mexico is supposed to be attending the BRICS convention in a few weeks.
If they apply to join, well, haha.
Wouldn’t that just be too funny?
God does have a sense of humor.
And. Very recently a bill was in process for us to invade Mexico. Because...drugs. Right.
There will be more fun things to watch soon.
Quasi-religious fervor and rabid, unquestioning belief in a cause, thing or entity, either real or imagined, does that to some folks.
So does an extra paycheck.
Free diapers and chocolate pudding is what I heard.
I doubt Russian operatives.
There are better places to expend that..now twitter, yes.
I just don’t think they care what we think.
What would they gain here by winning over a few people?
Most Russians like Trump and are praying for him.
MeganC is Crazy but she is a Conservative true and true.
Her opinions on other matters I respect.
Alot of the Ukrainian Brigade are worthy of our respect,but that doesn’t mean we can’t give them the “what for”
“Very recently a bill was in process for us to invade Mexico. Because...drugs. Right.
There will be more fun things to watch soon.”
It’s a Big Club and we have no say in it.
We just foot the bill.
Likewise. (-;
What an erudite, sophisticated post.
You bots are a strange lot.
“No doubt that the Neocon Groupies will attack me, but my point being that the more that CONSERVATIVES (i.e., Republicans, learn about Ukraine and the mess that the Neocons got us into, the less they’ll want to support it.”
In the words of one of FR’s more notorious troll bots: “May it be so!”
The Democrats need to Run Zelenshkk for President of the USA—he is the most popular man in the world today. Americans should be glad to donate to Ukraine! We need Ukraine war bonds—we are In it to Win it! All the way with Biden’s Team USA! We must bring back the Draft for a Million Volunteers to fight evil RuZZians. F-16s NO!—send F-35’s and F-22 and trained hero American Pilots to fly them and earn the rank of Ace! Russia is nothing! They fear Americans men and tanks. I say—all the way to Moscow! Ukraine has shown us how to beat the Russians—look how they are cutting though their trenches with Leopard Tanks—they have sank any russian ships that dare leave port. Ukraine can not lose and only losers’ like Trump thinks Russia will win. Send another ten Billion Bucks for VICTORY BY CHRISTMAS!
“Some of the people who post here have downright been praising Putin and crapping on America, yet they are still here posting and no one seems to be suspicious.”
Hot damn...
I knew you was in a Tizzy.
Your quite a character.
With all due respect.
Correct.
"I noticed, however, that you mentioned nothing about YOU ever having served."
That's because you assumed I was a man. I'm not. I'm a woman, and I'll turn 76 next week. I got married and had two sons, one who enlisted in the U.S. Army. I didn't mention his service previously, because he was injured while at Fort Knox, and eventually given a disability discharge (honorable). I also didn't mention my father who was born in 1904, and came here with his parents and two brothers from Holland in 1913. He was too young to serve in WWI, and by the time WWII rolled around, he had already contracted Osteomyelitis (TB of the bone) from a leg injury during his childhood, which rendered one of his legs shorter than the other, so the military would have never taken him. The rest of his life he had an open wound that drained pus. It was considered a chronic infliction, and in those days, there were no actual treatments for it. He worked for the NY Central Railroad for over 50 years, first as a laborer, and later as a Track Foreman, which is the job he retired from. He lived to enjoy 7 years of his retirement. As well, my only brother, the one who enlisted in the Army and served in Vietnam, died of a massive heart attack at the age of 51, leaving a wife and five kids. My father's brother who served in the U.S. Army in WWII, died at the age of 40 from blood poisoning. My other Uncle, my mother's brother who enlisted in the U.S. Army in WWII, died at the age of 48. I'm the last one left in my family. Nobody in my family lived to be 75, so I'm definitely living on borrowed time.
I got divorced in 1979, and raised my two sons alone. My ex-husband wanted nothing to do with his kids. All these years later, he has no idea his youngest son is a cancer survivor. The ex, by the way, never served anything, other than himself. I worked as an officer and Sergeant for 25 years in NY State's prison system, much the wiser than when I started. I retired in 2003. Prior to that, I worked in office situations, which were about the only jobs available to females when I graduated in 1965. College was not pushed for females back then either. I won't get into my experience of being one of four females working in Auburn Prison when I started...but it wasn't the inmates that gave us the problem.
"But, like you, I have also studied history ever since I was a little kid; and I still read history— avidly. My university degree is in history."
Same here. I have a masters degree in history. For my undergraduate degree, I majored in Human Services with a minor in psychology. And my learning of history has continued all these years. I spent many of my vacations over a 10-year period at the National Archives, the Library of Congress, college libraries, public libraries, historical societies, etc., searching out primary source material for my thesis. I also tracked down descendants of the men, both black and white who served in both the 54th and 55th Massachusetts. I provided official documents that enabled one family of an enlisted man (escaped slave) to get the Medal of Honor for their ancestor...awarded by Congress, and given to the last surviving daughter of the Civil War soldier by Bill Clinton, just before he left office in 2001. I shared all my research with other people I met along the way...some of whom were both historians and authors. They acknowledged me in their books, and sent me signed copies those books. In 1993, I co-edited the book: "No Middle Ground: Thomas Ward Osborn's Letters from the Field (1862-1864) [Battery D, 1st NY & Army of the Tennessee].
"Is our economic health a national security interest? Is our global trade and commerce a national security interest?
How is fighting a proxy war with Russia, while sending billions of dollars that are unaccounted for, helping our economic health? How is fighting a proxy war with Russia helping our national security, when our southern border is wide open, and thousands of individuals we know nothing about, are pouring over the border? How is that helping our economic health?
"Is keeping close tabs on countries that wish us ill, and have wished us ill for generations a national security interest?"
How has that worked out so far? Did any of that stop this country from becoming the third-world commie $hit-hole it is today? Did it help protect our God-given rights here, or those that are supposed to be protected under the U.S. Constitution? How did surveilling our "enemies", stop U.S. politicians from selling this country out to the highest bidders? Obama/ Iran; Clintons and Bidens/ China? What good has any of it done when this country is being destroyed from within?
"Because history is chock full of unprepared or naive countries or societies..."
You mean like Europe failing to enforce the Treaty of Versailles on Germany after WWI, and allowing them to continue to manufacture arms, then rebuild their military, and organize an Air Force? Krupp, the major arms factory in Germany admitted at the Nuremberg Trials that they had never stopped manufacturing arms despite the ban put in place by the Versailles Treaty. And whose fault was that? It's obvious that Europe was only interested in the reparations that Germany was paying them, not what they were actually doing in the background. What good are treaties if nobody is going to enforce them? Europe failed in that respect. It wasn't our job to police Germany. It was their's. In the end, it took Germany almost a hundred years to finally pay off their WWI reparations.
As well, after WWI, when the German Navy scuttled their U-Boat fleet off the coast of Scappa Flow, Scotland, a large amount of the metal was salvaged by a Scottish company, who then in turn, sold the bulk of it back to Germany. Yeah, that was a bright idea wasn't it? Whose responsibility was it to make sure that Germany didn't have the material to wage war again? It was Europe's, and again, they failed miserably. I bet a lot of that salvaged steel, ended right back with Krupp, and used to build armaments. The company is still in business.
"We live in the real world; a world filled with the most barbarous, treacherous, untrustworthy, venal, and warlike creature ever to draw breath: Man."
And we've got politicians doing business with that type of people, helping to make them, and theirselves rich, while they are also letting people like that cross our border unhindered everyday.
Sorry, but I think you are the one living in Pollyannaland, because you seem to think things in this country are hunky-dory, and that the only real threat to us here is from overseas, specifically Russia, when it's clearly right here in front of you. And it's because of that threat being ensconced here, that weakens us. We can't even have honest elections here, and you're worried about threats from overseas?? Hello!!!
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