Posted on 08/04/2023 7:45:24 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

President Donald Trump declared on Wednesday that his third indictment would help prove election fraud as he faces a 2024 race to the White House.
In a statement posted to Truth Social, Trump commented on Mike Pence, saying he felt “badly” for the failing presidential candidate “who is attracting no crowds, enthusiasm or loyalty who, as a member of the Trump Administration, should be loving him.”
He continued, “He didn’t fight against Election Fraud, which we will now be easily able to prove based on the most recent Fake Indictment & information which will have to be made available to us, finally – a really BIG deal.”
In 2020, then-Vice President Mike Pence had an opportunity to send potentially fraudulent electoral votes back to the sovereign states amid a torrent of allegations that irregularities and inconsistencies had occurred in counties nationwide. Pence ultimately opted to certify the 2020 presidential election.
“The V.P. had power that Mike didn’t understand, but after the Election, the RINOS & Dems changed the law, taking that power away!” Trump added.
In 2022, Joe Biden signed legislation known as the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022 (ECRA), which designated the role of the vice president in the certification process as “solely ministerial” via NCSL.
This 2022 change to the Electoral Count Act of 1887 has led many to logically conclude that former Vice President Pence did indeed appear to have the authority to reject the electoral votes in 2020.
Trump’s third indictment this week came from Washington, D.C., where he was charged with four counts related to the so-called “insurrection” on January 6, 2021. He remarked on Thursday, “The Dems don’t want to run against me or they would not be doing this unprecedented weaponization of ‘Justice.’ BUT SOON, IN 2024, IT WILL BE OUR TURN. MAGA!”
The kangaroo court will not let you!
Depending of course on what the judge allows to be entered as evidence...
Screwed.
So is he going to unleash the Kraken NOW?
No they didn't. Congressional law cannot overwrite Constitutional law.
The President of the Senate has exactly the same power he had before.
If he could refuse to accept fraudulent election certifications, which I believe he can, he can still do that.
This "Kraken" bullsh*t isn't the most dishonest thing i've see in regards to this issue, but it is still pretty dishonest.
I watched the interview with Sidney Powell. She isn't the one that brought up this "Kraken" bullsh*t. The guy interviewing her kept asking her about "release the Kraken", and she finally said "sure."
This was someone baiting her into going along with that statement, not something she herself wanted to say.
This is exactly like that guy who interviewed Obama's grandmother, and kept asking her loaded questions, to one of which she responded "yes."
When the question was better explained to her, (she didn't speak English), she said "No."
But that didn't stop this liar from constantly saying "Obama's grandmother claims he was born in Kenya."
And now everyone believes that she said that. They aren't interested in the truth.
Please, no more contact with the crazy woman kraken lawyer.
Pence did the right thing. His only duty was to read the votes into the record. No more...no less.
““The V.P. had power that Mike didn’t understand, but after the Election, the RINOS & Dems changed the law, taking that power away!” Trump added.”
“In 2022, Joe Biden signed legislation known as the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022 (ECRA), which designated the role of the vice president in the certification process as “solely ministerial” via NCSL.”
Sorry Charlie, the role in this case of the vice president is “enshrined” in the CONSTITUTION and can only be changed by a constitutional amendment or a decision by the Supreme Court.
If the Kraken won’t get released maybe Trump will use the evidence Mike Lindell showed at his Cyber Symposium, Lindell offered 5 million dollars to anyone that prove the information was false, when someone actually did prove it false Lindell refused to pay him
On a case regarding Trump’s allegation that the election of 2020 was fraught with fraud, I suspect that the judge will not allow introduction of actual evidence of fraud. She will rule that any such evidence has been “debunked” and thus not relevant to the case. The prosecution can point to news articles stating that there was “no evidence of widespread fraud” in an amount sufficient to change the election outcome.
What do you want to bet that such will be the prosecution’s position and she will rule in their favor.
Hé didn’t have discovery before.
If he produces just one witness that had their vote cast not by them but from an unsolicited absentee ballot, then the entire case ought to be thrown out.
And there are many who have testified that occurred to them.
even if all the evidence can’t be entered into court testimony, won’t he be able to broadcast materials that come to him via discovery, subpoena etc?
Nope. I absolutely reject that theory. It is incorrect.
If the President of the Senate has no power, then there is no purpose for the constitution to declare that he should do it.
Your claim is incorrect on the face of it.
His argument is that congress's efforts to change the law would not be necessary if they really believed the VP hasn't got that power.
His argument is that their behavior in passing a law to ban it, implies that they believe the VP has that power.
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