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Greg Gutfeld smeared as 'downplaying' the Holocaust by dishonest journalists
Twitchy.com ^ | 7/25/2023 | FuzzyChimp

Posted on 07/25/2023 6:19:06 AM PDT by NetAddicted

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To: NetAddicted

I watched the show and Greg cited a source. Of course, the Left will think he, Fox, and the audience believe otherwise. I hope Jessica says something about it if the tweet is brought up on The Five today. And to confuse non Fox viewers (but critics) even more: That’s Jesse, not Greg shown at the beginning of the clip. I detest liberals.


21 posted on 07/25/2023 7:30:12 AM PDT by peggybac (My will is what I wanted. God's will is what I got.)
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To: dfwgator

Brooks made fun of the people who perpetrated the Holocaust. He did not claim that it was no big deal or that the people who died implicitly deserved it because they weren’t useful to their masters. You know better than this.


22 posted on 07/25/2023 7:34:08 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: NetAddicted

Dishonest Journalist: From the Redundancy Department of Redundancy.


23 posted on 07/25/2023 7:34:49 AM PDT by mykroar (what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how. - J0eStalin)
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To: peggybac
I watched the show and Greg cited a source.

As I noted in 12-13 not the best paraphrasing, but a renowned source. Victor Frankel, founder of Logotherapy, one of the three schools of Viennese psychotherapy, the other two founded by Freud and Adler. The book Greg was citing, Man's Search for Meaning, specifically deals with Frankel's experience at Auschwitz, he survived, and the characteristics of those who survived. Yes, survivors are a small subset of the camp's populations, but their characteristics are a legitimate topic, exploration of which in no way demeans the deaths of the vast majority.

24 posted on 07/25/2023 7:44:22 AM PDT by SJackson (All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism)
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To: NetAddicted

What he said is patently true. Those internees who could be helpful in operating the camps were kept alive for awhile, most slowly starved and worked to death. The rest, too young, too old, too sick, or just over the quota, in their millions, were murdered shortly after arrival. The survivors, tattooed like branded cattle, to the Germans’ dismay and shame giving witness, did make it out because they were somehow useful. Gutfeld denied nothing.


25 posted on 07/25/2023 7:45:26 AM PDT by katana
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To: dfwgator

“Jews survived by being useful.”
See George Soros.


26 posted on 07/25/2023 7:45:56 AM PDT by o-n-money (Not my president: WRONG Not the president: RIGHT)
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To: NetAddicted

“Gutfeld said this to his Jewish co-worker Jessica Tarlov.”

Isn’t Gutfeld himself Jewish?


27 posted on 07/25/2023 7:50:21 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

He was raised Catholic.


28 posted on 07/25/2023 7:52:54 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SJackson

He cited a source whose message he did not understand. The idea that Viktor Frankel was arguing, AS GUTFELD WAS, that the Jews could have survived if only they had worked harder, is a monstrous and outrageous lie. It is literally “Arbeit Macht Frei.”

Gutfeld is a comedian and he should not stray into serious topics, because he is too stupid to do so coherently.


29 posted on 07/25/2023 7:53:11 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Boogieman

No


30 posted on 07/25/2023 7:53:24 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: NetAddicted

I know a survivor who survived 5 death camps because he was a machinist they needed.


31 posted on 07/25/2023 7:55:48 AM PDT by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: babble-on

Point taken.

It’s another example why, even if you think you have a good point, it’s never a good idea to talk about the Nazis in any shape or form. It just leaves too much room for someone to pounce on it.


32 posted on 07/25/2023 7:56:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: babble-on
I think you're correct and I suspect he's not read Frankel. I didn't get the impression he was saying Jews could have survived if only they had worked harder rather commenting on the characteristics of those who survived. Possible I'm getting that impression because he mentioned Frankel, but the characteristics of those who survived, a small group, is a legitimate topic and doesn't demean the deaths of the majority. If he was suggesting that he's obviously wrong.
33 posted on 07/25/2023 8:01:55 AM PDT by SJackson (All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism)
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To: MD Expat in PA

PSDT?


34 posted on 07/25/2023 8:10:24 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: dfwgator

And I don’t think on his worst day Viktor Frankl was saying that he was better than the people who died because he was a harder worker. He was trying specifically to find meaning in the suffering, so that he could go on living in a world where such evil was possible.


35 posted on 07/25/2023 8:41:18 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

One of the things people don’t talk about is how the Holocaust happened because we tend to see things through the modern prism.

All of the leaders during WWII went through WWI. Now think about that for a second. These people witnessed the deaths of literally thousands a day on the battlefields without blinking an eye, at a scale unheard of up to that point. Plus you had the Armenian Holocaust going on during the war. So really, what happened to the Jews to them really wasn’t all that out of the ordinary.

We react to it, because for the first time we had the images of the camps and the technology to thoroughly document the atrocities and disseminate them to the public.

But the fact is, events like the Holocaust went on for centuries. If you aren’t familiar with it, read up on the The Massacre At Clifford’s Tower, in York in 1190. It’s as blood-curdling as any Nazi atrocity.


36 posted on 07/25/2023 8:46:50 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NetAddicted

Make it all stop...


37 posted on 07/25/2023 8:54:05 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: dfwgator

It’s true. The veneer of civilization is very thin in the best times, and the barbarity comes through a lot more often than we realize.


38 posted on 07/25/2023 8:55:25 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

I’m afraid we’re about to find that out the hard way real soon, hope I’m wrong, but I grow more pessimistic with each passing day.


39 posted on 07/25/2023 9:01:30 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SJackson

“Jews survived by being useful”

Those that did survive, that is how they did it.

Viktor Frankel did, and his philosophy is praised by Stephen Covey in Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, and the Lubavitcher Rebbe honored him, too. In a nutshell, Frankel believed that the only thing one can control is how one reacts to what happens in life. Since he was a famous scholar, this was praised. Rednecks have known for a long time, however, that when life throws you lemons, you make lemonade. Same thing, just more plainly stated. But it got Frankel through the Concentration Camp, and it is a profound perspective, whether expressed in Viktor Frankel’s or a good ol’ boy’s wording.

They ought to try being useful in DC, but they already are being useful idiots.


40 posted on 07/25/2023 9:11:30 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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