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Trump’s enemies pursue more and more indictments — to ensure his 2024 nomination
New York Post ^ | July 23, 2023 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 07/24/2023 5:25:55 AM PDT by Reno89519

There’s being fortunate in your enemies, and then there’s having enemies who are helping you take the first step in your political comeback.

Donald Trump and his adversaries want profoundly different things in the long run — Trump wants to be back in the White House; Democrats want him in an orange jumpsuit.

Yet in the shorter term, they both are seeking the same thing — Trump as the Republican nominee, either so he can sweep to victory (Trump’s view) or be beaten again and pay the price for his crimes (the Democrats’ view).

The serial indictments of Trump, even if it’s not their primary purpose, advance this mutual interest.

With every indictment, Trump dominates media attention and rallies Republicans to his side based on charges of selective prosecution.

The routine is so predictable, it’s become boring.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: nevertrumper; persecution; prosecution; richlowry; rino89519; rinos4biden; trump
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To: FreeReign

To do the opposite of what Trump recommended last time like discouraging early and mail-in voting which got him a one-way ticket to Mar-A-Lago.


101 posted on 07/24/2023 8:31:20 PM PDT by MountainWalker ( )
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To: MountainWalker
To do the opposite of what Trump recommended last time like discouraging early and mail-in voting which got him a one-way ticket to Mar-A-Lago.

The Democrats will cheat either way, early or same-day voting. And they will cheat again using mail-in ballots.

That's not a plan.

Both candidates don't have a satisfactory plan yet for 2024.

Add to that, Ron wants us to ignore what happened in 2020, which certainly isn't going to help us stop the cheating in 2024.

102 posted on 07/24/2023 8:39:19 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Ok, it’s 16 months to election day and developing a ground game infrastructure to gather ballots is not something you just roll out after the convention. It requires years of planning and building, and the person who is responsible for doing that hasn’t made it a priority and was endorsed by Trump. Also, perhaps unsurprisingly, her name is Romney.


103 posted on 07/24/2023 9:26:33 PM PDT by MountainWalker ( )
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To: FreeReign
Add to that, Ron wants us to ignore what happened in 2020, which certainly isn't going to help us stop the cheating in 2024.

/rant on>

The real problem with "what happened in 2020" is that Trump and his "team" invested way too much in dry holes, i.e. Dominion and "vote switching" and foreign servers, etc. That stuff was being spoon fed to willing minds like Mike the Pillow Guy all the way down to close friends of mine who expected every day for the shoe to drop. That made everything else seem to be mostly anecdotal.

Everyone knows it isn't coincidence how piles of bricks were ready stacked for use during the riots. It's the same thing with piles of ballots ready stacked for use during a chaotic election. We had the lawyers and still couldn't put eyes where they needed to be. In today's reality, they won fair and square. They got rules in place to leverage "harvesting" during Mask Mania and made full use.

The headliners who went whole hog Dominion are really responsible for most of this mess. You have to wonder who they really were working for in actuality. Lin Wood and Sidney Powell along with Rudy completely blundered away any argument of organized fraud with basically nothing more than conspiracy theories and promises of ultimate revelation. What an embarrassing time. There was no light shone on anything and about a third of Trump's voters are convinced to this day of stuff I believe the left (or worse) fed them.

Proof of that is Georgia for sure where many were convinced their vote doesn't count no more and we turned our two GOP Senators in for two DNC ones. That will teach them! In the end, that is the Trump reality for me and where I reside. And Trump is in open warfare against our Governor for some reason. I suppose because he didn't "find" 10,000 votes or so. What a traitor Kemp is, right? What a heap of a mess we really are in. It will take a true Reagan type leader to pull us out of this nose dive.

/rant off>

104 posted on 07/25/2023 3:41:01 AM PDT by Religion and Politics (Can’t we all just get along? :))
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To: MountainWalker
Ok, it’s 16 months to election day and developing a ground game infrastructure to gather ballots is not something you just roll out after the convention. It requires years of planning and building, and the person who is responsible for doing that hasn’t made it a priority and was endorsed by Trump. Also, perhaps unsurprisingly, her name is Romney.

Good posts Moutain Walker and really important questions that lay below the emotion layer.

Ronna obviously is successful at money raising and that is the only competency she is measured by apparently. There has been NO accountability for 2022, none. Trump wants to make it like we didn't go far enough MAGA and everyone who doesn't pass the "loyalty" test regarding 2020 and supporting Trump from the start is a RINO.

It's kind of like the days where we would rout the Dems and you would have a few lefties who said they lost because they didn't go far enough left with their candidates. We eat our own for now and it probably isn't going to change this election cycle. That is the result of no accountability.

105 posted on 07/25/2023 3:50:04 AM PDT by Religion and Politics (Can’t we all just get along? :))
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To: Religion and Politics

The problem, in a nutshell, is that the left is more committed to winning than we are and want to win at any cost. They are more disciplined and while they do have some kooks who blame losses on their candidates not being left enough, they are kept under control by their party bosses who deliver for them just the same as if they got their outspoken Maoist candidates.

I can’t find the article I read recently, but the Democrats apparently have several think tanks that do nothing but sit around all day coming up with different ways to game the system. We have nothing like that. We’re trying to win elections the old-fashioned way while they’ve moved onto ballot gathering. They don’t even need to win political arguments but go door to door in densely urban centers and collect ballots from people who may not even know who they’re voting for. They used to have the problem of time and needing to bus all of these people to the polls in one day, but now that they have “campaign month” and people can vote from home, they’re almost unstoppable. They can send people on foot to gather ballots from all their voters, which would be geographically impossible for our voters who would probably think you’re a scammer and slam the door in your face anyway.

I don’t know what the solution is, but I agree that we’re going to get our butts kicked for a while. As you mentioned, this is compounded by the fact that many of our voters are unwilling to confront reality and will probably blame Trump skeptics and fraud when he loses again next fall, as I suspect he will. It may be possible to overcome the structural advantages that the left has built with moderate Democrat third party candidate or a very popular GOP candidate versus a very unpopular Democrat, but other than that, I think they hold the presidency and statewide offices in all of these ballot harvesting states for a long time.


106 posted on 07/25/2023 8:06:18 AM PDT by MountainWalker ( )
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To: Religion and Politics

Here’s the blog post that excerpts the article I was talking about

https://ace.mu.nu/archives/404791.php


107 posted on 07/25/2023 8:21:49 AM PDT by MountainWalker ( )
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To: Religion and Politics
The real problem with "what happened in 2020" is that Trump and his "team" invested way too much in dry holes, i.e. Dominion and "vote switching" and foreign servers, etc

Sydney Powell and even Mike Lindell weren't part of the paid Trump team. Giuliani and the team spent very little time on the machines. I don't recall Trump ever talking about foreign servers or Dominion.

Sydney Powell was never put on the team after that first press conference. Rudy quick shut up about Dominion after a short amount of time.

108 posted on 07/25/2023 11:51:16 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: MountainWalker
... and the person who is responsible for doing that hasn’t made it a priority and was endorsed by Trump. Also, perhaps unsurprisingly, her name is Romney.

Trump did a whip count on the state party representatives. They are the ones who vote for the RNC chair. They are mostly GOPe types.

Hermeet never had the votes.

109 posted on 07/25/2023 11:54:57 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

He could have moved many of them with an endorsement of Hermeet and perhaps put her over the top, but getting the best people has never been this loudmouth’s forte. It would be pretty ironic if the RNC chair candidate that he didn’t endorse and whose top priority would have been creating our own harvesting/fraud machine is the reason why he loses next November and spends the rest of his life in jail.


110 posted on 07/25/2023 12:40:07 PM PDT by MountainWalker ( )
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To: MountainWalker
He could have moved many of them with an endorsement of Hermeet...

You don't know that.

111 posted on 07/25/2023 12:58:12 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Give me a break. Look at how many primaries he played in last year to disastrous effect.


112 posted on 07/25/2023 1:00:28 PM PDT by MountainWalker ( )
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To: FreeReign
He could have moved many of them with an endorsement of Hermeet...

You have no idea who these Republican Party state reps are. They are establishment GOPe types.

Yet you think Trump could have changed their mind.

Psst. Here's a little secret that most everybody knows but you.

The GOPe despises Trump. The GOPe despises Hermeet.

If you don't believe that, I can't help you further.

Have a good day.

113 posted on 07/25/2023 1:14:04 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: MountainWalker
He could have moved many of them with an endorsement of Hermeet...

You have no idea who these Republican Party state reps are. They are establishment GOPe types.

Yet you think Trump could have changed their mind.

Psst. Here's a little secret that most everybody knows but you.

The GOPe despises Trump. The GOPe despises Hermeet.

If you don't believe that, I can't help you further.

Have a good day.

114 posted on 07/25/2023 1:19:26 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Sydney Powell and even Mike Lindell weren't part of the paid Trump team. Giuliani and the team spent very little time on the machines. I don't recall Trump ever talking about foreign servers or Dominion.

Trump tweeted about "switched votes" and "deleted Trump votes" by Dominion machines. Trump would have been smarter to say that the campaign did not believe the various conspiracies regarding Dominion including the link to Venezuela, but they couldn't help themselves thinking that anything helped their cause somehow.

115 posted on 07/25/2023 6:38:48 PM PDT by Religion and Politics (Can’t we all just get along? :))
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To: FreeReign

Ahh so he endorsed a useless GOPe stooge for RNC chair bc he thought it would be seen as a negative endorsement and cause the reps to flip to Harmeet. Got it.

No, what actually happened is that he didn’t want to risk backing the challenger who lost bc Romney might hold a grudge and try to screw him over at the convention. It’s not any more complicated than that.


116 posted on 07/25/2023 7:45:06 PM PDT by MountainWalker ( )
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To: MountainWalker
Ahh so he endorsed a useless GOPe stooge for RNC chair bc he thought it would be seen as a negative endorsement and cause the reps to flip to Harmeet. Got it.

Wow. No!

No, what actually happened is that he didn’t want to risk backing the challenger who lost bc Romney might hold a grudge and try to screw him over at the convention. It’s not any more complicated than that.

Now you got. That's exactly what happened.

117 posted on 07/25/2023 8:00:50 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Religion and Politics
Trump tweeted about "switched votes" and "deleted Trump votes" by Dominion machines. Trump would have been smarter to say that the campaign did not believe the various conspiracies regarding Dominion including the link to Venezuela, but they couldn't help themselves thinking that anything helped their cause somehow.

Voting machine software is proprietary, which of course is inappropriate. Trump wants the machines out of the process. He's right about that.

Trump was never involved with the wild rumors about, Venezuela, Germany and Italy.

118 posted on 07/25/2023 8:08:08 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

So back the incompetent RNC chair for Trump’s own temporary personal pre-election benefit than the real reformer who would make structural improvements to beat back the communist horde. Very on-brand for Trump.


119 posted on 07/25/2023 8:39:19 PM PDT by MountainWalker ( )
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To: MountainWalker
So back the incompetent RNC chair for Trump’s own temporary personal pre-election benefit than the real reformer who would make structural improvements to beat back the communist horde. Very on-brand for Trump.

No, back the RNC Chair so he could get more done, both during the election and once he is elected president.

120 posted on 07/25/2023 8:46:29 PM PDT by FreeReign
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