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Michigan attorney general charges fake Trump electors over alleged 2020 election crimes
CNBC ^ | 7/18/2023 | Dan Mangan

Posted on 07/18/2023 2:59:01 PM PDT by trustverify0128

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To: trustverify0128

Someone needs to file a complaint with the
MI bar, ethnic complaints, and let her deal with it. Be like the Dems


21 posted on 07/18/2023 3:44:23 PM PDT by struggle
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To: frank ballenger

You need to work on your analogies.


22 posted on 07/18/2023 3:44:36 PM PDT by Fuzz (. )
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To: trustverify0128; All

It’s indisputable they were fake electors.

It seems the AG was the only person on the planet to take them seriously.


23 posted on 07/18/2023 3:47:08 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Fuzz

I’ve actually always had a problem with analogies but I thought a stolen election being corrected was like a stolen car being taken back.

Sorry if I didn’t succeed.


24 posted on 07/18/2023 3:48:34 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: trustverify0128
I had to go look it up, and wouldn't you know, "uttering and publishing" is a real thing in Michigan:

Uttering and publishing is a felony crime in Michigan that involves the forgery or counterfeiting of important documents and then attempting to pass them off as legitimate.1 It is defined as willfully uttering or publishing a written or printed statement that is false with the intent to injure or defraud someone. To be convicted, the prosecuting attorney must prove that you published a false statement with the intent to injure or defraud someone.2 Possession of five or more counterfeit coins or currency can carry up to life in prison.03 Uttering and publishing is one of the most prevalent felony crimes that is charged in Michigan and can be prosecuted in the Federal Courts under certain circumstances.0

25 posted on 07/18/2023 3:51:14 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: trustverify0128

“desperate effort” to “undermine democracy.” this is getting very ominous those perpetrating this corrupt system is going to pay big time


26 posted on 07/18/2023 3:52:01 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: trustverify0128

Biden should just go all Zelensky. Outlaw all opponents and other parties then brag about how much of a democracy and freedom we have.

It would save from a lot of silly fake Constitution ruining court cases.


27 posted on 07/18/2023 3:55:56 PM PDT by dforest
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To: frank ballenger

Well, if the election was illegally stolen, you don’t combat that by doing more crimes.


28 posted on 07/18/2023 3:56:34 PM PDT by Fuzz (. )
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To: Mariner

You and I both know that.

But if you think they’re not going to use any and every technicality to achieve their ends, I have a bridge to sell you.

And I don’t know that the two states that added the caveat of “alternative” electors are off the hook. A lot of states have laws that demand VERY SPECIFIC language on these elector certificates.


29 posted on 07/18/2023 3:59:04 PM PDT by trustverify0128
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To: usconservative

Thank you for taking a few moments to do that research. That was generous of you.


30 posted on 07/18/2023 4:01:18 PM PDT by trustverify0128
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To: Fuzz

Oh, now I get it.

“To live outside the law you must be honest.”

Sorry, the current wartime rules cause us to accept that exigent circumstances allow us to set aside the sweetness and gentle demeanor of days where we knelt down, head on the ground and let the Communists slaughter us.


31 posted on 07/18/2023 4:15:02 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: trustverify0128
"Michigan attorney general charges fake Trump electors over alleged 2020 election crimes"

The witch's main monkey.


32 posted on 07/18/2023 4:15:24 PM PDT by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: trustverify0128

Brandon’s supposed, ‘victory’ is the Death Knell for the rest of us!

And they ain’t ringing The Liberty Bell!

*SPIT*


33 posted on 07/18/2023 4:15:49 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“ Fascism”

It’s the American Way.


34 posted on 07/18/2023 4:17:17 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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To: Jim Noble; All

“Weimar Republic government.”

^THIS!^

*BUMP*


35 posted on 07/18/2023 4:17:31 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: trustverify0128

Wait, what??? There’s a law against uttering in Michigan?


36 posted on 07/18/2023 4:20:19 PM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: trustverify0128

They’re ramping up the 2024 cheat. Freaking out, actually, but it’s all part of the planned cheat — and coordinated nationally w/ the federal gov.


37 posted on 07/18/2023 4:21:13 PM PDT by nicollo ("This is FR!")
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To: All

Washington Examiner
DAILY MEMO
by Byron York, Chief Political Correspondent
June 26, 2023 01:10 PM

THE STUFF HUNTER BIDEN DIDN’T GET INDICTED FOR.

There’s no doubt Hunter Biden had some serious tax problems. In the 2010s, he took in millions from shady overseas business dealings, trading on the name of his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, and had a history of filing his returns late with six-figure amounts of taxes due. There was also his lowlife, high-cost drug addict lifestyle in which he threw away hundreds of thousands of dollars on prostitutes and crack. He had personal financial problems most people don’t share.

Last week, Hunter Biden agreed to plead guilty to two misdemeanor counts of failing to pay his taxes on time. Republicans quickly dismissed it as a sweetheart deal, and they were right. IRS investigators, who did the key work in the investigation, wanted to charge Hunter Biden with felonies. The Justice Department disagreed, choosing instead to reduce the charges to misdemeanors. But those two misdemeanors do not describe the full extent of Biden’s tax transgressions.

For the story, it’s best to go to two transcripts released last week by the House Ways and Means Committee. The first was from IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley, who oversaw the Biden investigation. Shapley’s testimony has received a good bit of attention, in part because he revealed a remarkable WhatsApp message from July 30, 2017, in which Hunter Biden pressured a Chinese business associate for money by threatening to have his father, by then the former vice president, use his influence to retaliate against the associate if the money was not delivered. Hunter Biden said his father was “sitting next to me” as he made the threat, which, if true, would mean that Joe Biden was not telling the truth when he repeatedly denied knowledge of his son’s business affairs.

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That was big. But there is a second IRS whistleblower whose testimony was also released last week. This whistleblower, who is anonymous, was the lead case agent for the Hunter Biden investigation. As such, he had a detailed, hands-on knowledge of the evidence in the case. He is the IRS agent who would have testified against Hunter Biden had any case against him gone to trial.

This agent — call him WB2, for whistleblower No. 2 — told House investigators a remarkable story. It started with Hunter Biden before his father became vice president, before becoming a crack addict. “Hunter Biden had had a lot of tax issues, even predating all this stuff,” WB2 testified. “Back in 2002, he filed his Form 1040 late — filing and owing over $100,000 in taxes; 2003, owed more than $100,000 in taxes; 2004, late-filed and owed more than $20,000 in taxes; and then 2005, late-filed his personal return and owed over $100,000 in taxes.”

Fast-forward to 2014, when Joe Biden was vice president and a corrupt Ukrainian energy company, Burisma, put Hunter Biden on its board of directors. According to WB2, Burisma paid Hunter Biden $666,667 that year to do little or no work. Hunter Biden received the money, WB2 explained, and then moved it to a Chinese company run by one of his associates. That company then “loaned” the money to Hunter Biden.

“So imagine this,” WB2 said. “If you are an owner of a company and your friend tells you that, ‘I want to pay my wages to your company, and you’re going to loan the money back to me,’ that’s essentially what happened here. He took loans from that corporation ... and he didn’t pay taxes on those loans. ... So essentially, for 2014, we found that Hunter didn’t report any of the money he earned from Burisma.” The problem, WB2 said, was: “You can’t loan yourself your own income.”

A House Republican lawyer asked: “So none of this was taxed?” WB2 responded: “None of it was taxed.” The lawyer said: “And to date, none of it has been paid or prosecuted?” WB2 responded: “So none of this has been paid or prosecuted. And I would also like to note that the statute [of limitations] has run out on these tax years or on the 2014 tax year.” The year 2014 was not part of the misdemeanor charges against Hunter Biden. As far as the IRS and Justice Department are concerned, that’s all over.

In an extremely complex arrangement, Hunter Biden did pay some of his taxes on Burisma money in 2015. But then, in 2016, Hunter Biden did not file a personal return at all and did not pay the $581,713 he owed in taxes, according to WB2. Hunter Biden moved to California, entered his drug addict years, and did not file tax returns for 2017 or 2018, either. In 2019, he got sober and faced a child support case for a child he had had with a former stripper in Arkansas. He hired a new accountant and, in February 2020, filed his 2017 and 2018 returns, according to WB2.

The 2018 return, WB2 said, contained false claims for deductions. “Some of the items that he deducted were personal no-show employees,” WB2 said. “He deducted payments that were made to who he called his West Coast assistant, but she was essentially a prostitute. He made payments — there’s an $18,000 wire that is made to one of these individuals, and on the wires, they say $8,000 in wage and $10,000 in golf — $10,000 golf club member deposit. And we know that that $10,000 went to pay for a sex club. He went to a sex club — and we’ve talked to the person that owned that sex club, and they confirmed that he was there. And the [sex club member] has to pay $10,000 ... so that was deducted on the tax return.”

Hunter Biden also “deducted expenses for hotel rooms for one of his drug dealers or what we believed to be one of his drug dealers,” WB2 added. “There was a significant amount of expenses deducted related to his girlfriend at the time, Airbnbs related to her, hotel rooms. So he deducted a lot for the Chateau Marmont, and he actually was blacklisted and thrown out of the Chateau Marmont. We actually have ... photos of the rooms and the destruction that was done to the rooms.”

In those years, Hunter Biden was in full flight when it came to profiting from his father’s name and influence. The money wasn’t just coming from Ukraine. It was coming from all over the world. “Global income streams for everyone altogether, so it’s for the period 2014 through 2019, our investigative years, so the total global transfers that Hunter and his associates would have received from Ukraine, Romania, and China was $17.3 million, approximately,” WB2 said. But that was for everyone involved in the Hunter Biden enterprise. As for Hunter Biden himself, WB2 said: “Of this amount, for the period 2014 through ... the end of 2019 — that’s when income stops coming in — it’s $8.3 million. This is what Hunter would have received of that.” That’s the bottom line for Hunter Biden’s foreign income during that period: $8.3 million.

The IRS investigation began in 2018. “The investigation into Hunter Biden, code name Sportsman, was first opened in November 2018 as an offshoot of an investigation the IRS was conducting into a foreign-based amateur online pornography platform,” Shapley told House investigators.

By the time his father was the Democratic candidate for president, Hunter Biden owed a lot of unpaid taxes. By Shapley’s estimation, the total owed was $2.2 million. Since 2014, Hunter Biden has sometimes failed to file his returns, has failed to pay tons of tax, and has fraudulently claimed deductions for payments to prostitutes. How could he get out of such a situation?

One big step would be to pay off all his taxes and penalties. Many news accounts of the Hunter Biden story have noted that prosecutors are less likely to charge a person who has committed tax crimes if that person ultimately paid off his or her bill. The idea is that a jury would ask: Hey, this guy has paid what he owes, so why are you putting him on trial? Hunter Biden could put himself in an infinitely better position if he paid the IRS what he owed. But that was $2.2 million. Where could Hunter Biden get $2.2 million?

Enter Kevin Morris. A wealthy Hollywood celebrity lawyer, Morris apparently met Hunter Biden at a political fundraiser in the 2019-20 period. And then, when Joe Biden was in the White House, Morris paid the younger Biden’s tax bill.

According to WB2, on his 2020 tax returns, Hunter Biden included a note: “The taxpayer received financial support from a personal friend totaling approximately $1.4 million. The parties agreed in 2020 to treat the support as a loan and later documented their agreement in a promissory note in the amount of $1.4 million, 5% interest. The promissory note requires periodic payments between 2025 and 2027. The promissory note was executed by both parties on October 13th, 2021. The taxpayer is treating this amount as a loan for tax purposes. The balance of the financial support is treated as a gift. No amount of the support is treated as a reported taxable event on this return.”

In later months, Morris gave his friend even more money — approximately $800,00 more, bringing Morris’s total payoff of Hunter Biden’s tax liabilities to the full $2.2 million owed. The Morris money would serve as a roadblock to those IRS agents who wanted to prosecute Hunter Biden. “The payment could make it harder for prosecutors to win a conviction or a long sentence for tax-related offenses, according to tax law experts, since juries and judges tend to be more sympathetic to defendants who have paid their bills,” the New York Times reported in 2022. Of course, Hunter Biden did not actually pay his bills. Morris did.

In WB2’s testimony, a Republican lawyer asked about the Morris loans: “Has that transaction been investigated?” WB2 responded, “I’m no longer a part of an investigation related to that.” As part of what the whistleblowers say is retaliation against them, top IRS officials removed both WB2 and Shapley from the Hunter Biden case.

And now the matter has been resolved with two misdemeanor charges. The conclusion is deeply frustrating to IRS agents like WB2. Hunter Biden failed to file returns, failed to pay his taxes for several years, and falsely claimed deductions. WB2 also pointed out, more than once, that Hunter Biden’s tax offenses occurred over a period of years, some of which he was on drugs and some of which he was not, meaning that not all of the violations can be attributed to Hunter Biden’s being in a drug-induced haze, as some defenders suggest. The agents’ conclusion is that just because Hunter Biden’s new friend bailed him out — no repayments required until 2025 — does not mean Hunter Biden did not violate the tax laws repeatedly in the 2010s.

At the end of WB2’s deposition, a Republican lawyer asked this question: “If someone meets all the elements for a crime of willful evasion and are found to, in conjunction with that, owe a liability, and they pay off that liability years later when they’ve been caught, has a crime been committed?” WB2 answered simply: “Yes.”


For a deeper dive into many of the topics covered in the Daily Memo, please listen to The Byron York Show — available on the Ricochet Audio Network and everywhere else podcasts can be found. You can use link at web site to subscribe.


38 posted on 07/18/2023 4:22:06 PM PDT by Liz (Vox Populi, Vox Dei (voice of the people is the voice of God))
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To: trustverify0128

What exactly did these people DO? As described in the article, the charges are utterly ambiguous.


39 posted on 07/18/2023 4:22:59 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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CNBC is Comcast

Comcast is evil


40 posted on 07/18/2023 4:23:17 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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