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After Suffering Heavy Losses, Ukrainians Paused to Rethink Strategy
NYT via DNYUZ ^ | July 15th, 2023 | Unattributed

Posted on 07/15/2023 7:52:06 AM PDT by Mariner

In the first two weeks of Ukraine’s grueling counteroffensive, as much as 20 percent of the weaponry it sent to the battlefield was damaged or destroyed, according to American and European officials. The toll includes some of the formidable Western fighting machines — tanks and armored personnel carriers — the Ukrainians were counting on to beat back the Russians.

The startling rate of losses dropped to about 10 percent in the ensuing weeks, the officials said, preserving more of the troops and machines needed for the major offensive push that the Ukrainians say is still to come.

Some of the improvement came because Ukraine changed tactics, focusing more on wearing down the Russian forces with artillery and long-range missiles than charging into enemy minefields and fire.

But that good news obscures some grim realities. The losses have also slowed because the counteroffensive itself has slowed — and even halted in places — as Ukrainian soldiers struggle against Russia’s formidable defenses. And despite the losses, the Ukrainians have so far taken just five of the 60 miles they hope to cover to reach the sea in the south and split the Russian forces in two.

One Ukrainian soldier said in an interview this week that his unit’s drone picked up footage of a half-dozen Western armored vehicles caught in an artillery barrage south of the town of Velyka Novosilka.

(Excerpt) Read more at dnyuz.com ...


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While Wagner and Ukraine focused on Bakhmut, the Russian army was digging in.

Until/unless Ukraine achieves air superiority, those Russian forces will stay where they are.

1 posted on 07/15/2023 7:52:06 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

REEeeeeeeeeeeeing Zeeper! Placemarker

2 posted on 07/15/2023 7:57:44 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Young Ukrainians Scared To Leave Their Homes As More And More Videos Emerge Of Forced Conscription

3 posted on 07/15/2023 8:00:14 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Your first post is derisive and unwelcome.


4 posted on 07/15/2023 8:04:00 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Maybe re-thinking their strategy should include not broadcasting it to the world for two months beforehand.


5 posted on 07/15/2023 8:04:57 AM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Most recently, one Odessa military commander, Yevgeny Borisov, was found to have spent nearly €4 million over the past year on a luxury mansion on the Spanish coast, as well as nearly €200,000 on a luxury car.

He also bought his wife a chain of shops on the Costa del Sol. If all this was not enough, Borisov was able to holiday in his Spanish palace despite the fact that the borders have been closed to conscripts for a year and a half.

Yevgeny Borisov, commander of Odessa’s auxiliary
Yevgeny Borisov’s villa in Marabella.

Borisov’s case caused such a public outcry that, after nearly two months of complaints, President Volodymyr Zelensky had to declare that such figures had no place in the army. He even promised that all military offices would be reviewed.

Ironically, it is precisely in Odessa that Ukrainian conscripting soldiers are the most aggressive and underhanded; the region also features the highest number of conscriptions.

6 posted on 07/15/2023 8:05:38 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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“Most recently, one Odessa military commander, Yevgeny Borisov, was found to have spent nearly €4 million over the past year on a luxury mansion on the Spanish coast, as well as nearly €200,000 on a luxury car.”

Typical of Russian corruption.


7 posted on 07/15/2023 8:10:13 AM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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“You can, too. Just call toll-free, ‘The Biden School of Making it Big in Government.’”

“And do it today.”

8 posted on 07/15/2023 8:13:46 AM PDT by Liz (Vox Populi, Vox Dei (voice of the people is the voice of God))
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To: Mariner

New strategy #1) let’s not tell them we’re launching a counter offensive soon


9 posted on 07/15/2023 8:25:12 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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Typical of Russian corruption

At the risk of being flamed, isn't Yevgeny Borisov a Ukrainian commander?

10 posted on 07/15/2023 8:57:55 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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--- "Ironically, it is precisely in Odessa that Ukrainian conscripting soldiers are the most aggressive and underhanded; the region also features the highest number of conscriptions."

One learns from the link you posted:

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Given that Hungary is a part of the European Union, the reports of press ganging by the current Ukraine government should not be discounted as "propaganda" per se.

As to the remark about "Russian" corruption, instances of which I do not doubt, the far larger frame is about government corruption worldwide. Before one point's a finger in any direction, one question need be considered. Which of the national players in this "event" do not evidence corruption, often on a massive scale?

Ukraine has been a poster child for corruption, given the names, Biden, Pelosi, Kerry and Romney. So one alleges a Russian is corrupt? Imagine that! So are so many in governments' -- plural -- high and lofty positions.

Additionally, one might show some curiosity about that "Russian General," since "Zelensky ordered to dismiss the Odessa military commissar Borisov for corruption – he found a villa in Spain In Ukraine, a scandal broke out with the 'famous' Odessa military commissar Yevgeny Borisov, whose Ukrainian journalists found real estate and cars worth millions of euros in Spain.

Source: https://vk.com/wall-94269450_1084753?lang=en

Additional source: https://ground.news/article/villa-in-spain-for-4-million-and-luxury-car-odessa-army-got-into-scandal

11 posted on 07/15/2023 9:23:40 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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What a hypocrite. Zelensky has 5 or 6 mansions and villas across the world. Florida, Israel, Spain, UK are a few. Oh and his mansion in Ukraine.

And he says this guy isn’t fit? Has Zelensky reviewed himself yet?


12 posted on 07/15/2023 9:33:56 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Mariner

This is impossible. Russians are idiots and never learn from their mistakes.


13 posted on 07/15/2023 9:42:04 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (away.)
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“Typical of Russian corruption.”

You do know that Odessa is currently a part of the Ukraine, right?

This is typical of UKe corruption.


14 posted on 07/15/2023 9:46:09 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: DaxtonBrown

Odessa = Ukraine

The Ukraine elite are getting rich on the US taxpayer’s dime.


15 posted on 07/15/2023 9:47:31 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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Odessa, home of the Ukrainian mafia (no, they are not Italians).
Odessa, sex trafficking headquarters.
Pure Coincidence


16 posted on 07/15/2023 9:52:34 AM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: cgbg

“You do know that Odessa is currently a part of the Ukraine, right?”

Yeah, I just woke up in a crappy mood so I wanted to see if bashing Russia would make me feel better (kind of like ‘conservative’ Charles Barkley now defending Bud Lite).

But it didn’t help.


17 posted on 07/15/2023 9:56:17 AM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Most of the “Russia is corrupt” claims pre-date Putin, as his government is no more corrupt than the US at this point, and the Jan 6th tourists are learning, for example.


18 posted on 07/15/2023 9:59:02 AM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: BobL

Lol—as you know some Freepers are geographically challenged.

;-)


19 posted on 07/15/2023 9:59:37 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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--- "Most of the 'Russia is corrupt' claims pre-date Putin, as his government is no more corrupt than the US at this point, and the Jan 6th tourists are learning, for example."

Ignoring for a moment the non-NATO war between two non-NATO nations as NATO is screaming to be included and at the same not being included in the actual war, you make an excellent point.

The whole J6 "event" is an anathema to truth and justice, and has the hands of the deep state and DNC and especially Pelosi written all over it. There is a darn good reason that Wyoming so dumped Cheney in the election. She and her ilk have framed a sitting president, installed a Resident and continue to prosecute J6 folks for "walking between the ropes" while Capitol Police escorted many of them, even opened doors for some. And murdered one with impunity.

20 posted on 07/15/2023 10:14:38 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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