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To: mass55th; Alberta's Child

Did he honestly believe the vote fraud ballot counting was acceptable? Or possibly wasn’t fraud?

If authors can have access to information then Pence certainly could.

Rigged: How the Media, Big Tech, and the Democrats Seized Our Elections
by Mollie Hemingway and Mollie Ziegler Hemingway
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Stealing Your Vote: The Inside Story of the 2020 Election and What It Means for 2024, Hardcover , January 24, 2023
by Christina Bobb
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Fraud: How the Left Plans to Steal the Next Election
by Eric Eggers
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Who’s Counting?: How Fraudsters and Bureaucrats Put Your Vote at Risk – August 14, 2012
by John Fund , Hans von Spakovsky
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Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy Paperback – July 21, 2008
by John Fund
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60 posted on 07/12/2023 10:40:01 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: frank ballenger
Fine -- the election was totally rigged.

The time to fix that ended when each state submitted their certified electors to Congress. This statement from Sen. Tom Cotton captures the whole thing well -- especially the highlighted paragraph:

JANUARY 03, 2021

Cotton Statement on Joint Session of Congress

I share the concerns of many Arkansans about irregularities in the presidential election, especially in states that rushed through election-law changes to relax standards for voting-by-mail. I also share their disappointment with the election results. I therefore support a commission to study the last election and propose reforms to protect the integrity of our elections. And after Republicans win in Georgia, the Senate should also hold more hearings on these matters. All Americans deserve to have confidence in the elections that undergird our free government.

Nevertheless, the Founders entrusted our elections chiefly to the states -- not Congress. They entrusted the election of our president to the people, acting through the Electoral College -- not Congress. And they entrusted the adjudication of election disputes to the courts -- not Congress. Under the Constitution and federal law, Congress’s power is limited to counting electoral votes submitted by the states.

If Congress purported to overturn the results of the Electoral College, it would not only exceed that power, but also establish unwise precedents. First, Congress would take away the power to choose the president from the people, which would essentially end presidential elections and place that power in the hands of whichever party controls Congress. Second, Congress would imperil the Electoral College, which gives small states like Arkansas a voice in presidential elections. Democrats could achieve their longstanding goal of eliminating the Electoral College in effect by refusing to count electoral votes in the future for a Republican president-elect. Third, Congress would take another big step toward federalizing election law, another longstanding Democratic priority that Republicans have consistently opposed.

Thus, I will not oppose the counting of certified electoral votes on January 6. I’m grateful for what the president accomplished over the past four years, which is why I campaigned vigorously for his reelection. But objecting to certified electoral votes won’t give him a second term -- it will only embolden those Democrats who want to erode further our system of constitutional government.

64 posted on 07/12/2023 10:44:21 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: frank ballenger
"Did he honestly believe the vote fraud ballot counting was acceptable? Or possibly wasn’t fraud?"

All of those Republican assholes in Congress who voted to accept Biden's electors, sanctioned unlimited voter fraud on January 6th. They made it the law of the land. That includes people like Rand Paul and Marsha Blackburn who initially planned to reject Biden's electors, but then came back after the break, turned chicken, and voted to accept them. I have no respect for any of them, and I will never forgive, or forget.

73 posted on 07/12/2023 11:03:54 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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