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New estimate of Russian dead and wounded after 15 months of war in Ukraine
Hotair ^ | 07/10/2023 | John Sexton

Posted on 07/10/2023 10:04:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

A joint investigation carried out by two media organizations and a professor at a German university has offered what may be the most accurate estimate yet of the number of Russians killed and injured in the first 15 months of the war in Ukraine.

Analyzing existing reports about published obituaries, mortality data from the Federal State Statistics Service, and extensive records from the National Probate Registry, we estimate that between 40,000 and 55,000 Russian men under the age of 50 died fighting in Ukraine by May 27, 2023. When factoring in the number of men wounded so seriously that they did not return to military service, Russia’s total casualty count rises to at least 125,000 soldiers, based on our calculations. (This figure does not include missing or captured soldiers or Ukrainian nationals fighting with Russian proxy forces based in Donetsk and Luhansk.)

Direct information on these figures is impossible to get because the Russian government has classified it. Even mentioning the death of a soldier online can result in prosecution. Still the media outlets tracked reported deaths the best they could using public information and came up with a total of just under 27,000 deaths. However, the current investigation came up with a clever workaround.

Journalists at Meduza and Mediazona obtained access to a restricted but non-classified database of inheritance cases, and we compared trends in these data to those evident in both publicly available demographics and previous reporting on published obituaries. The records we received include more than 11 million individual cases since 2014, and each inheritance claim shows the deceased person’s full name, the dates of birth and death, the date when the probate case was opened, and other information. The records here are not comprehensive, but the large sample size makes the data representative, which is what matters for this analysis. The cases included in the database were opened between 2014 and May 2023.

Of course not everyone who dies leaves behind property. In fact it’s mostly older people who have property to leave behind. Younger people, like those mostly likely to be Russian soldiers, only left property after death a little more than half the time. By carefully working through all these numbers, they were able to come up with and estimate that looks like this graph below. The green line is the death estimate based on public sources. The purple line is the excess mortality based on probate data.

Another graph shows the spike in probate cases among men aged 20-24 compared to women. As you can see the number of men dying spikes suddenly in early 2022 as the war began while the number of women dying remains flat.

Add all of that up and you get the 47,000 figure mentioned above. Finding the number of injured troops involved looking at a different database.

To count seriously wounded soldiers, we analyzed published Russian treasury records cataloging compensation payments to the families of men either killed in the military or wounded so badly that they were discharged. By removing killed soldiers from this data, we were able to estimate the number of seriously injured soldiers…

Running these numbers, we are left with a wounded-to-killed ratio among Russian soldiers that fluctuates between 1.57:1 and 2.84:1. Averaged out, this yields a total casualty count of at least 125,000 men.

Again, that 125,000 figures is total casualties including deaths. The error bars on that estimate of seriously wounded soldiers appears to be pretty large but this is the middle of the range.

Russia started the war with around 190,000 soldiers along the border with Ukraine. It later announced a mobilization which conscripted another 300,000 men. That means that out of nearly half a million men about 1/4 are either dead or too seriously injured to fight. That still leaves a lot of soldiers but I’ve read estimates from US military experts who say that losses of this magnitude create a serious problem for the effectiveness and morale of the remaining forces. Presumably these losses aren’t evenly distributed. Soldiers fighting at the front are more heavily impacted then those in support roles. So if these figures are accurate these are pretty dramatic losses. It’s no wonder Russia’s army has been more notable for its retreats than for its successes.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: casualties; missingukecasualties; noukenumbers; propaganda; russia; ukraine; whereareukenumbers
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1 posted on 07/10/2023 10:04:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Given the poor Russian military leadership up to fairly recent months, I think the estimate is far too low.


2 posted on 07/10/2023 10:38:34 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: SeekAndFind
Zero Ukrainian soldiers have been killed or wounded.

Ukie Tank Gril scratched her arm and mussed her makeup while destroying three armored divisions of Russian T-90 tanks by herself.

3 posted on 07/10/2023 10:39:52 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Brian Griffin

See my post #3.


4 posted on 07/10/2023 10:41:12 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Brian Griffin

“gosh, I read stuff about The Ukraine War on the Interwebs”


5 posted on 07/10/2023 10:43:52 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: SeekAndFind

The fighting is extremely vicious. Think Stalingrad and the Eastern Front of WW2.


6 posted on 07/10/2023 10:46:17 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now post an article detailing the number of dead Ukrainian soldiers from this war.


7 posted on 07/10/2023 11:05:52 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Too low.


8 posted on 07/10/2023 11:10:33 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: SeekAndFind

Ukraine is winning. But may cease to exist soon.


9 posted on 07/10/2023 11:13:33 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Prince of Space
You're welcome to do that, yourself.

This is an article about Russian casualties, that didn't need to happen, BTW.

Maybe throw in Ukrainian civilian casualties, too.

Just a thought.

10 posted on 07/10/2023 11:51:20 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mostly white Christian men killing each other. The oligarchs gloat as they open Europe’s doors to young Muslim men.


11 posted on 07/11/2023 1:03:14 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: SeekAndFind

By all accounts, Russian wounded are cared for and saved; ukie wounded lie there and die.


12 posted on 07/11/2023 1:06:40 AM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: SeekAndFind

These numbers seem reasoned, but I’m not totally convinced of their
accuracy. At one point I was pretty sure Russia’s death toll was over 100k.

The two call ups of more men made it clear they were having to replace a
lot of their troops. Here we see a lower death toll, but a very high number of
injuries so severe that men could not return after healing as much as they
could.

The total numbers seem to be able to justify the number called up troops
to replace them. This is probably a pretty good work up.


13 posted on 07/11/2023 2:07:58 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Angelino97
I recall Patton wanted to rearm the Axis prisoners and use them in a combined Allied attack against the Russians.

Sound like a plan detail we should use against the muslim invaders? Let the Christians kill the muslim wannabe conquerers

14 posted on 07/11/2023 3:27:37 AM PDT by W. (biden and co. must go! We need Trump back!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bkmk


15 posted on 07/11/2023 3:37:57 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: SeekAndFind

Consider also the excess mortality now evident in countries not at war. Almost tbe entire Western world is averaging above the pre-Covid expected number of deaths. More people lost than 9/11 every week (I think) but completely ignored by governments and media.


16 posted on 07/11/2023 3:44:57 AM PDT by Stingray51 ( )
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To: ganeemead

“By all accounts, Russian wounded are cared for and saved; ukie wounded lie there and die.”

Really. That is a pretty big claim. So every single account supports your claim? There is not even one contrary account that says different? Yeah ok then.


17 posted on 07/11/2023 4:01:01 AM PDT by Dartoid
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To: SeekAndFind

All those poor souls, lives lost because of a stupid war that should have been focusing on the real enemy of the world, the Biden regime and his puppet masters.

It should be 127,000 dead Deep Stater’s instead. /spit


18 posted on 07/11/2023 4:17:19 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: ganeemead

“”””By all accounts, Russian wounded are cared for and saved””””

Half of Russian Losses Could Have Been Prevented With Proper First Aid—U.K.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-losses-first-aid-prevented-ukraine-war-1811860

“The leading causes of preventable fatalities and amputations were slow evacuations and “the inappropriate use of the crude in-service Russian combat tourniquet,” the MOD said.”


19 posted on 07/11/2023 4:17:33 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How many are convicts given pardons and commutation of prison sentences in exchange for military service with Wagner? The Russians were quite willing to throw those into the meat grinder. They seemed much more careful with their regular soldier’s lives.


20 posted on 07/11/2023 4:17:37 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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