Posted on 07/08/2023 5:57:27 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
A national defense analyst says NATO and the West need to pay attention to Russia’s repeated warnings about using nuclear weapons, this time from a notable academic who concludes Russia must consider nukes to stop NATO expansion and to “save humanity” from the West.
“Russia and its leadership seem to be facing a difficult choice,” begins the academic paper by Sergei Karaganov. “It becomes increasingly clear that a clash with the West cannot end even if we win a partial or even a crushing victory in Ukraine.”
That frightening document, which published in late June, goes on for another 2,900 words to conclude using “God’s weapon of Armageddon” will prevent – not create – a worsening crisis in Europe. "The enemy must know," he writes, "that we are ready to deliver a preemptive strike in retaliation for all of its current and past acts of aggression in order to prevent a slide into global thermonuclear war."
The word "nuclear" is used 27 times and "nuclear weapon" is used 10 times by Karaganov, a historian and political scientist.
(Excerpt) Read more at afn.net ...
“...I predict there will be calls from the War Crowd in Washington for the use of American Ground Troops.”
They’re already there. “Trainers” lol. Some are already dead.
Vietnam again, with nukes.
“Never underestimate Joe’s ability to f*ck things up.”
—Obama, direct quote.
The warmongers are in charge of State, and Biden is just a puppet. So the Warmongers, anti-Russia to the bone, are running the war. And Defense Contractors love it—record profits. And Congress loves it—serious campaign cash flowing in from said Defense Contractors. Win-win-win, until nukes go off. Then they’ll throw their hands in the air, as usual, and say, “Who would have guessed?” And run for their bunkers with trunks of cash.
And they all lived happily ever after. Wishful thinking. Putin's successor could be worse.
“Just because some academic says something does not make it a policy of the government.”
That reminds me of what George Orwell said: “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.”
“Well that’s true for your view, too.”
Putin, and other Russian leaders, have said they felt threatened by Nato expansion and the current Ukraine government. I am taking them at their word. I also understand their reasoning.
It is the stated opinion of the many leaders in the west that they are not threatened. I don’t believe leaders such as Biden or Graham.
“Those who wish for Putin’s demise should consider who might be his successor. This guy makes Putin look pretty appealing.”
This guy is close with Putin, and he wouldn’t be saying this unless Putin wanted him to.
I think the first skirmish will be US vs Russian Pilots going at each other to establish air superiority, if that ever happens then all bets are off with respect to WW III.
I’m no military expert but Ukraine’s counteroffensive has no chance of working when Russia owns the skies over the battle, as soon their infantry moves the Russians know it and pound them with drones, artillery, rockets, attack helicopters, etc.
That’s why I think US air power will be the first sign of the US entering the battle.
Question: What would NATO and or USA do if Putin detonated a high altitude nuke over eastern Ukraine that took no lives but sent out an EMP pulse that burned out every computer in Uke land? Would that be worth ending the world?
“If you think you don’t need civil defense, that’s your problem.”
Of course we need civil defense, and for a lot of different scenarios.
Unlike the rest of the nuclear-armed world, Russia is so pathologically paranoid it thinks the rest of the world — which sees nuclear arms primarily as a deterrence — thinks as it does: That the weapons are primarily for active use.
” Russia might be a despotism but it is only a bastardized Mongol state as far as China is concerned.”
That is true. And, what’s more, China sees Siberia and Eastern Russia as Chinese territory.
I could see a situation where it’s sold as a peacekeeping mission to provide Ukrainians with some type of safe space from Russian Forces.
Yes, If Zelensky starts to lose big and retreat in the face of Russian advances—yes, Or if Belarus joins the fray and threatens Kiev. The call will be for Humanitarian aid so Ukraine can re-arm and build new armies to retake lands. The war will end only when we wish it—like in all other wars.
“Russia is so pathologically paranoid it thinks (nuclear) weapons are primarily for active use.”
Link please.
Yet Putin just calmly accepted NATO allowing Finland and its 830-mile Russian border and strategic location, to join NATO.
A small fraction of Russian missiles actually work. But, yeah, even a small exchange is horrific.
“Tactical weapons use would prove once and for all that Russia is truly an oriental despotism that has not now, nor ever has had, an affinity for the West.”
I’m sure it would prove that and all kinds of silly teenage girl hyperbole.
To you and those who think as you do.
But it would have little effect on Russia.
Of course it would have little effect on Russia. You have made my point. Thank you.
Maskarovka.
Putin has been truly efficient when it comes to minimize russian losses. Only +200.000 Russian soldiers killed and/or injured for life (so far) - after only one and a half years of war...
In recent history, Russia lost 10.000 soldiers in Afghanistan after 10 years of war...
Putin still has some Russians in combat age left to recruit though.
One problem: 1,5 million young and smart anti-neo-Soviet Russians fled Russia right in the beginning of the war...
So Putin will have to rely on Wagner or similar once again...
Like Neocon Nikki and Mike Pence.
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