Posted on 07/07/2023 6:02:59 AM PDT by Red Badger
Is there any other kind?
Trudeau is building wind-farms to make hydrogen to sell to the EU ,how does he get it to the EU, magic ,LOL
How’s that cure for cancer you promised us coming along, Joe?
I’m sure hunter has the ‘dirty’ kind.
Aging Wheels on YouTube got a Toyota fuel cell car to test.
It wasn’t impressive.
Two words:
Hydrogen embrittlement.
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If any of this "green" stuff were actually profitable, there would be no need for government subsidies....
Making this stuff is not the issue.
Storing, transporting, and using it is where the pesky details lie. When your material is literally the smallest molecule in existence, it’s tough to contain it. It’s also good at blowing stuff up In spectacular fireballs.
Back in the 1970s or so, “Scientific American” — back in the days when they did actual science, instead of climate catastrophe-obsessed propaganda — ran an article titled “The Hydrogen Economy.”
The article suggested “surplus electrical generation” could be pressed to make hydrogen from water, for vehicle fuel and other uses, and explored various considerations in doin so — pros and cons.
Back then, it made some sense.
Know what burning hydrogen yields?
Carbon Dioxide and a little water vapor.
Carbon Dioxide.
Good luck with that.
True that. And hydrogen as energy storage from electrolysis is horribly inefficient, at least a 50% loss of power (for every 100kWh used to generate hydrogen, at most 50kWh can be obtained from the fuel cell that later consumes hydrogen when you need power).
Thus, there is only use case I can see even a chance of electrolysis being worth it. That is for long term backup storage in a very remote area (read: no grid power or natural gas service) that gets plenty of sun most of the year (to run the electrolyzer) so the gas can be generated and stored for winter use or rainy times that last weeks. The idea being that battery storage, though more efficient, is more expensive when talking about large storage amounts. With hydrogen storage, you can expand storage fairly cheaply by adding tanks.
Except, when burned in a chlorine atmosphere it becomes HCl
Hydrogen embrittlement of metals is still a major problem...............
Where does the carbon come from?................
WTF? We’ve been told it’s all about electricity! 🧐
Yes, but I believe that's mitigated by producing hydrogen without using heat (through electrolysis) and storing it as compressed gas instead of super cooling it. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Still, electrolysis-to-storage-to-fuel-cell is a horribly inefficient round-trip process anyway.
It’s all a scam.......
It is about electricity. This is the Dims' way of grasping at straws to make intermittent wind and solar power work -- by using excess power days to make hydrogen and store it to later use when power is needed by running a fuel cell. Their thinking is: "we had to be right, all along, there was just something missing, this time we figured it out, this time it will work."
It does if you are on the receiving end of the kickbacks.
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