He says they are lying? Is this some form of "Who ya gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?"
Article IV, Section 2 is clearly about fugitive slaves.
"Very well, what happened? The proposition was met by a storm of opposition in the convention: members rose up in all directions, saying that they had no more business to catch slaves for their masters than they had to catch horses for their owners - that they would not undertake any such thing, and the convention instructed a committee to alter that provision and the word "servitude," so that it might apply NOT to slaves, but to free-men — to persons bound to serve and labour, and not to slaves."
So they objected to the word slave? We knew that. You can tell by how it is written that they went to a little effort to avoid mentioning the reality of what they were passing.
I think it's clear that Douglass means that the clause means not "only" slaves but any kind of labor including - yes - slaves.
A teeny tiny sliver of the numbers of people "bound to service." I assume this means "indentured servants", but by far, the dominant meaning was slaves.
I didn't read it all in this moment but I think Douglass is making the point that it's actually the fugitive laborer clause.
With the vast majority of these fugitive "laborers" being slaves.
No matter what, I think both you and I can agree on this fact: The word slave does not appear there or anywhere.
It also doesn't appear in the section where congress can ban the import of slaves in 1808, but that is precisely what they are talking about.
They used euphemisms, probably because they just didn't want the word "slave" put into the constitution. They did the same thing when the wrote the Corwin Amendment. It is totally and completely about slaves, but they didn't use the word "slave."
Probably? Why not just go read the notes for yourself and find out?
"I think the consequences of it are the dominant factors as to what is going wrong in the country today."
I know. You've made that abundantly clear in several prior discussions. You give progressives a pass, and even trust them in some situations.
Progressivism is America's Cancer.
"Do you know how many horrible court decisions were created out of thin air thanks to the 14th amendment?"
I don't trust progressives, so I'm going to say much fewer than you'd wish to include. The vast majority of the bad court cases created out of thin air don't come from the 14th amendment. They come from the Incorporation Doctrine.
- which, yes, I know, the rumor is that Incorporation is based on the 14th. But you have to distrust progressives to take that final step. There isn't any evidence for the claim. Incorporation is not based on the 14th. It's based on thin air.
"Abortion, illegal alien "anchor babies", banning prayer in schools, re-writing the presidential eligibility requirements, homosexual marriage, and so forth."
The progressives did all these things. Just because progressives told me/you/us that the 14th amendment is what enables them? No. Progressives lie. They'll say anything.
The obvious one is homosexual marriage. If that was actually a part of the 14th, there would be some actual evidence. Since there is none, this can't be pinned on the 14th. It gets pinned on the liars. The progressives.
All of this stuff was created by deceitful progressives. Progressivism is America's Cancer.