6/29/2023, 3:03:35 PM · by econjack · 13 replies
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This is an old email about the Department of Energy. Just resurfaced here yesterday. Probably accurate in terms of the facts....
Posted on 06/30/2023 11:44:12 AM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said Wednesday that if he is elected president he would seek to close four federal agencies as part of an effort to reduce the size of government.
"We would do Education, we would do Commerce, we'd do Energy, and we would do IRS," DeSantis said in an interview with Fox News’ Martha MacCallum when he was asked whether he favored closing any agencies.
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In the current fiscal year, the budgets for the Commerce, Energy and Education departments were $109 billion, $160 billion and $194 billion, respectively, according to government spending data.
(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...
He referred to exactly that thread.
Stated he is asking real questions, and anyone wanting to take potshots at Trump or Desantis should go to said thread instead.
Of course he was naive to think anyone would read his comment, and only comment on the headline and take potshots.
With the current crop of career politicians, it will be extremely difficult.
Maybe start by moving agencies out of DC and disbursing them around the country.
That would break them up and cause many employees to quit rather than move.
Then start closing them down.
Without legislation both are pandering! The president lost the power of impoundment in 1974.
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Impoundment is an act by a President of the United States of not spending money that has been appropriated by the U.S. Congress. Thomas Jefferson was the first president to exercise the power of impoundment in 1801. The power was available to all presidents up to and including Richard Nixon, and was regarded as a power inherent to the office. The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 was passed in response to perceived abuse of the power under President Nixon. The Act removed that power, and Train v. City of New York (whose facts predate the 1974 Act, but which was argued before the U.S. Supreme Court after its passage), closed potential loopholes in the 1974 Act. The president’s ability to indefinitely reject congressionally approved spending was thus removed.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impoundment_of_appropriated_funds
How?
Stupid people believe a POTUS an eliminate a federal agency.
As a Congressman, in the House from 2013-2018, you served only during Republican majorities in that chamber. Why didn’t you push for that then? Also, the 114th, and 115th Congressional sessions were controlled by the Republicans in both Houses, so why didn’t you push that agenda then? You were gone in the 116th Congress, running for Governor when the Democrats took over the House. You missed your chance Ronnie. And we’re to believe that now, you’d do as President, what you could have attempted to accomplish, but chose not to when Republicans controlled Congress? I might have been born at night, but it wasn’t last night.
Golly, gee willigers!!! You got my vote!!
Standard GOP election propaganda...
Same old song for 60 years...
Proposals to eliminate the Commerce department have been bi-partisan. Rick Perry proposed it, and so did Obama. As to which parts of Commerce should actually be abolished, not relocated, I vote for the Minority Business Development Agency, the Bureau of Economic Analysis, and the Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research.
Of course it was naive to believe to think anyone would notice that I didn’t take any potshots in my post.
I would settle for the IRS eliminated but to do that it will take changing the tax code.
Since that won’t happen, the IRS needs overhauled. Last two years I spent close to 10 hours on the phone (waiting) to get a simple question clarified or something corrected.
Yes. They campaign and fund raised on these issues and when given the power to act..... do nothing.
According to http://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/report/five-good-reasons-close-down-the-department-commerce , it duplicates some of what other departments already do, among other things. It’s quite an eye-opening article, there’s much more than duplication going on that doesn’t appear to do anything but waste tax dollars.
How?
Good Question. Trump came up with a possible plan that he would use.
However it looks doubtful that would work.
Yup. Several years ago, I read a reasoned proposal eliminating all departments and agencies created since 1960.
Flat tax = too much paper work. Consumption tax. No one can argue it’s “fairness.” No one mentions consumption tax because there are too many syllables in the word.
I was making a general comment not about you, as clearly, replies are heading toward mocking candidates, particularly one.
It’s called sales tax.
Paying on what you “consume” - which is what you buy.
Agreed, get rid of all income tax (definitely for feds), eliminate evil 16th Amend.
Sales tax is much fairer and simpler. You pay for what you use, which for poor people would be less and rich, more, anyway.
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