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US ambassador to Moscow contacts Russian diplomats over PMC Wagner crisis
Tass ^ | 6/25/23 | Tass

Posted on 06/25/2023 12:04:51 PM PDT by hardspunned

WASHINGTON, June 25. /TASS/. US Ambassador to Russia Lynne Tracy got in touch with Russian foreign ministry officials amid the situation around PMC Wagner but US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has no contacts with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, the CBS television channel said on Sunday, citing its sources.

According to CBS, contacts with Russia were carried out both between Ambassador Tracy and the Russian foreign ministry and at several other levels. However, there were no contacts between the two countries’ top diplomats.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: joewantsaworldwar; lemmingsforww3
“Later on Saturday, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, in coordination with Putin, held talks with Prigozhin, which yielded a de-escalation plan. Later, Prigozhin said that PMC Wagner was halting its advance to Moscow to return back to its field camps. Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that a criminal case against the Wagner chief would be dropped, while Prigozhin himself would go to Belarus. Besides, the Russian authorities pledged not to prosecute PMC Wagner troops who took part in the mutiny because of their "combat merits."

I’m lost. This is Russia, this is a power mad KGB thug who murdered his way to the top. A coup attempt ends all lovey dovey like this? What am I missing?

1 posted on 06/25/2023 12:04:51 PM PDT by hardspunned
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I’m lost. This is Russia, this is a power mad KGB thug who murdered his way to the top. A coup attempt ends all lovey dovey like this? What am I missing?

It's just theater. The Wagner troops get a free train ride to Belarus where they can strike Kiev. They have been pinned around Bakmut.

2 posted on 06/25/2023 12:08:48 PM PDT by ProfessorLee
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Have eye-bleach ready if you click on the link.


3 posted on 06/25/2023 12:09:07 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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The west got played.

Someone go look at where Prigozhin on the map at the moment.

Tells me everything I need to know.


4 posted on 06/25/2023 12:10:15 PM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/CA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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I’m lost. This is Russia, this is a power mad KGB thug who murdered his way to the top. A coup attempt ends all lovey dovey like this? What am I missing?

It's just theater. The Wagner troops get a free train ride to Belarus where they can strike Kiev. They have been pinned around Bakmut.

5 posted on 06/25/2023 12:12:13 PM PDT by ProfessorLee
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So Prigozhin has been bi+ching and moaning for months about the Russian handling of the war and Wagner just to set the West up to believe he was leading a grass roots movement yesterday? I could believe DC is that stupid.


6 posted on 06/25/2023 12:18:43 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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Have eye-bleach ready if you click on the link.

Try some Zakharova...


7 posted on 06/25/2023 12:26:19 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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"I'm lost. This is Russia, this is a power mad KGB thug who murdered his way to the top. A coup attempt ends all lovey dovey like this? What am I missing?"

What happened, why did it happen, wow did it happen, what does it mean, and what else is going on are the $64,000 dollar questions of the hour. Your guess is as good as my or any other. I would not bet on any ideas my own. In any case, my 2¢, subject to change in the next five minutes or less:

Prigozhin got what he wanted and secured his golden parachute. What he wanted was (1) maintaining the independence of Wagner from the Russian military, (2) a new center of operations away from the Russian MOD, FSB, Federal police and the Federal Protective Service (FSO), (3) a place to sleep without one eye open, (4) giving Shoigu and Gerasimov a huge black eye, and (5) maintaining his influence in Russian politics, whatever it is.

There has to be other political wrangling going on. Moving to Belarus may have been part of the plan or a fortunate opening for him. Time will tell.

Putin's power is not threatened. He looks detached and uninvolved, not a good look for a leaders during crisis. Putin is responsible for allowing Wagner to exist. That this happened and the failures of the response to stop Wagner, reflect directly on Putin.

Lukashenko comes out ahead as a hidden winner. He was the go between for negotiating the deal and giving Wagner a new base of operations in Belarus. This gives Belarus a potential ally to stand up to Putin.

What are your guesses?

8 posted on 06/25/2023 1:41:16 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇸 Trump 2024 🇺🇸)
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It would be odd for Russia to discuss it with the ambassador of the country that is at war with him right now, and has publicly stated its goal to overthrow that nations government.. I’m guessing our ambassador was probably told to mind his own business.


9 posted on 06/25/2023 1:49:57 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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What you’re missing is that in reality, he’s not a powermad KGB thug who murdered his way to the top. Are you could believe Washington DC and London.


10 posted on 06/25/2023 1:51:29 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Man, another unmarried childless woman is a diplomat to Russia. What a perfect example of what our society produces.


11 posted on 06/25/2023 2:02:24 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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We all have them. He’s our Hillary, a power mad psychopath who murdered her way to the top.


12 posted on 06/25/2023 2:02:51 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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I’m lost. This is Russia, this is a power mad KGB thug who murdered his way to the top. A coup attempt ends all lovey dovey like this? What am I missing?

You’re missing more hyperbole and a reasoned knowledge of Russian history. You might couch US history in such a fashion; how slave holding founders rebelled against their lawful monarch, etc.
13 posted on 06/25/2023 2:26:29 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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Russian history, which you are apparently ignorant of, dictates that an unsuccessful military coup leader is executed. Always! The KGB thug leaders that I am familiar with in Russian history would have all demanded execution. Nyet, in both cases today. 20 years was the threatened max sentence for military treachery in a battle zone and a military attack on the state during war?!? Then poof!, nothing. Yeah, nothing fishy here.


14 posted on 06/25/2023 3:17:24 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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Russian history, which you are apparently ignorant of, dictates that an unsuccessful military coup leader is executed. Always! The KGB thug leaders that I am familiar with in Russian history would have all demanded execution.

Ignorance = "lack of knowledge or information."

Point of Evidence:



The 1991 Soviet coup d'état attempt, also known as the August Coup,[a] was a failed attempt by hardliners of the Soviet Union's Communist Party to forcibly seize control of the country from Mikhail Gorbachev, who was Soviet President and General Secretary of the Communist Party at the time. ...

Trial of GKChP members The GKChP members and their accomplices were charged with treason in the form of a conspiracy aimed at capturing power. However, by January 1993, they had all been released from custody pending trial.[102][103] The trial in the Military Chamber of the Russian Supreme Court began on 14 April 1993.[104] On 23 February 1994, the State Duma declared amnesty for all GKChP members and their accomplices, along with the participants of the October 1993 crisis.[105] They all accepted the amnesty, except for General Varennikov, who demanded the continuation of the trial and who was finally acquitted on 11 August 1994.[32] The Russian Procuracy also wanted to charge former Deputy Defense Minister Vladislav Achalov, but the Russian Supreme Soviet refused to lift his immunity.[23] Additionally, the Procuracy refrained from charging numerous other individuals accused of complicity in the coup, including the Army Chief of Staff.

15 posted on 06/25/2023 6:23:58 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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16 posted on 06/25/2023 11:47:19 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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