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To: fireman15

“The Ukrainian counteroffensive thus far has been a complete multi-billion-dollar flop “

Extremely premature. You have no way to know what Ukrainian or Russian losses have been.

As for Wagner, we have lots of evidence, on video and etc., that it’s been an incredible mess in the Russian rear areas. Both Rostov and Voronezh are critical for Russian logistics to the Ukraine fronts. We have video of Russian bombing of fuel facilities at several points from Rostov to Voronezh for one thing - imagine that, the Russians bombing their own logistics. And that’s the least of it, the material disruption, but there us more to come.

And the morale and diplomatic damage are far worse. Putin looks like a man who has lost control, and the Russian state like a rickety shambles.


23 posted on 06/24/2023 8:06:07 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

Yada, yada, yada... You can’t back up anything that you have just stated with anything other than propaganda. You are correct in only one statement, “You have no way to know what Ukrainian or Russian losses have been.” Neither of us can. The only thing that we know for sure is that the “counter-offensive” thus far has accomplished basically nothing.


25 posted on 06/24/2023 8:13:25 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: buwaya

You have no way to know what Ukrainian or Russian losses have been.

Prig claims in his video yesterday the Russian losses have been 1000 casualties a day.

Since the offensive started last week, Onyx has Russian vehicle loses at 3X Ukrainian, very unusual for a defender to have that high a loss ratio.


38 posted on 06/24/2023 8:40:30 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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