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Vladimir Putin was tricked into invading Ukraine, claims Wagner leader
Financial Times ^ | 6/23/2023 | Max Seddon

Posted on 06/23/2023 12:07:27 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

The Russian warlord Yevgeny Prigozhin has said Russia’s defence ministry concocted false pretences to trick Vladimir Putin into invading Ukraine and said Moscow could have avoided the war entirely.

In a half-hour tirade Prigozhin, founder of the notorious Wagner mercenary group, claimed Russia had faced no immediate threat from Ukraine when Putin began his full-scale invasion last year and accused the army’s top brass of deceiving the Russian president for their own personal gain.

The extraordinary rant, posted on social media on Friday, was the former caterer’s latest salvo in a long-running spat with defence minister Sergei Shoigu, who Prigozhin has accused of sabotaging the war effort together with Valery Gerasimov, chief of Russia’s general staff.

Prigozhin’s regular diatribes, in which he claims Russia runs the risk of losing the war after Ukraine began a counteroffensive earlier this month, indicate elite infighting is getting fiercer as Moscow’s war effort continues to struggle.

Though Prigozhin notably refrained from criticising Putin personally and has backed the war’s goals, the video was the first time he publicly questioned Russia’s rationale for the full-scale invasion.

“There was nothing out of the ordinary on February 24,” said Prigozhin, referring to the day Putin ordered the invasion. “The defence ministry is trying to deceive the president and society by saying Ukraine was going mad with aggression and was planning to attack us together with the whole Nato bloc.”

Instead, Prigozhin claimed Shoigu had convinced Putin the war was necessary so “a bunch of bastards could rule the roost and show off about what a strong army they have”, then botched the invasion through “incompetent planning”.

“For some reason, this bunch of idiots thought they were so smart-assed that nobody would understand what they were up to or stop them on their way to Kyiv,” he added.

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1 posted on 06/23/2023 12:07:27 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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Everything coming out of Russia is true, no matter who’s voicing that ‘truth’. According to the resident FR Ruskies.


2 posted on 06/23/2023 12:10:24 PM PDT by adorno
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The US State Department told China that Ukraine was joining NATO. They knew China would tell Putin and Russia would invade.

It was all a scam by the warmongers at State.


3 posted on 06/23/2023 12:11:21 PM PDT by MMusson
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Well, Evgeny is right of course.

But then he did make a lotta rubles off the deal...


4 posted on 06/23/2023 12:11:23 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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It's getting more and more interesting:

Full message of Prigozhi "declaring war on the Russian Ministry of Defence:

"PMC Wagner Commanders’ Council made a decision: the evil brought by the military leadership of the country must be stopped.

They neglect the lives of soldiers. They forgot the word “justice”, and we will bring it back.

Those, who destroyed today our guys, who destroyed tens, tens of thousands of lives of Russian soldiers will be punished.

I’m asking: no one resist. Everyone who will try to resist, we will consider them a danger and destroy them immediately, including any checkpoints on our way. And any aviation that we see above our heads.

I’m asking everyone to remain calm, do not succumb to provocations, and remain in their houses. Ideally, those along our way, do not go outside.

After we finished what we started, we will return to the frontline to protect our motherland.

Presidential authority, Government, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Rosgvardia, and other departments will continue operating as before.

We will deal with those who destroy Russian soldiers. And we will return to the frontline.

Justice in the Army will be restored. And after this, justice for the whole of Russia."

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5 posted on 06/23/2023 12:13:45 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: adorno

Actually, if the US wouldn’t have pushed a coup in 2014, used Ukraine as a safe haven for political money dealings for crooks, and quit on this insane NATO crap, things would be much better in the world.

Clearly being in NATO is not on the best interest of the American people. It is in the best interest of our superiors and the big money people who are tearing this country down to the foundations. USA incorporated, needs to be buried in the dump heap of history. We need to get back to the basics of doing what is best for We the People. Without a doubt, Klaus Schwab and the WEF are running most of the worlds countries. Our Pols are bought, bribed and paid for.


6 posted on 06/23/2023 12:15:24 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: MMusson
The US State Department told China that Ukraine was joining NATO.

They didn't just tell China.

They told the whole world.

Joint Statement on the U.S.-Ukraine Strategic Partnership

7 posted on 06/23/2023 12:15:29 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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8 posted on 06/23/2023 12:16:30 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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I think Prigozhin is to Putin, what Ilhan Omar and AOC are to Biden


9 posted on 06/23/2023 12:17:26 PM PDT by PGR88
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Oops! It was all a big mistake... Putin’s new defense against being removed from power with a bullet to his head... Maybe they can forgive him and let him live out the rest of his life at a nursing home. Good luck with that Vlad.


10 posted on 06/23/2023 12:21:48 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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We published this story about what Prigozhin accused the Russian MOD of this morning 40 minutes ago. In that time, he has now claimed the Russian army bombed a Wagner camp and appears to have declared war on the MOD. Just pure madness

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11 posted on 06/23/2023 12:23:33 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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If he was Ukrainian, we’d be told that was Nazi flag.


12 posted on 06/23/2023 12:24:15 PM PDT by dangus ( )
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13 posted on 06/23/2023 12:27:49 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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Of course there was no legitimate reason for putin/russia to invade their neighbor Ukraine

May putin and Prigozhin destroy each other

May it be so!


14 posted on 06/23/2023 12:29:52 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: MMusson

BS


15 posted on 06/23/2023 12:30:44 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Glad2bnuts

total bunk


16 posted on 06/23/2023 12:32:09 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: MMusson

No Russia invaded Ukraine because Putin wanted to expand the borders of Russia and subjugate other people to do it.


17 posted on 06/23/2023 12:33:36 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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“Clearly being in NATO is not on the best interest of the American people.”

I thought everyone here supported Nato as an important alliance to defend this and other countries. As far as I know the only people who don’t are the enemies of this country. So take that Russian troll.


18 posted on 06/23/2023 12:38:00 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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Ping


19 posted on 06/23/2023 12:39:54 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people. )
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To: marcusmaximus

Seemsike coordinated posts


20 posted on 06/23/2023 12:44:25 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me,)
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