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Early stages of Ukrainian counteroffensive ‘not meeting expectations,’ Western officials tell CNN
CNN via Yahoo ^ | June 22nd, 2023 | Jim Sciutto

Posted on 06/22/2023 1:12:45 PM PDT by Mariner

In its early phases, Ukraine’s counteroffensive is having less success and Russian forces are showing more competence than western assessments expected, two western officials and a senior US military official tell CNN.

The counteroffensive is “not meeting expectations on any front,” one of the officials said.

According to the Western assessments, Russian lines of defense have been proving well-fortified, making it difficult for Ukrainian forces to breach them. In addition, Russian forces have had success bogging down Ukrainian armor with missile attacks and mines and have been deploying air power more effectively.

Ukrainian forces are proving “vulnerable” to minefields and Russian forces “competent” in their defense, one of the Western officials said.

The officials cautioned that the counteroffensive is still in its early stages – and that the US and its allies “remain optimistic” Ukrainian forces will be able to make territorial gains over time. The US and its allies are likely to wait until at least July for a fuller assessment of the progress of the counteroffensive which was gradually launched over the last few weeks and is seen as crucial to determining who ultimately wins the war which was launched when Russia invaded last year.

In addition, these officials note that Ukrainian forces have themselves been adapting to Russian tactics and defenses, including carrying out more dismounted operations. In recent days, Ukrainian forces have also had more success targeting and shooting down Russian aircraft.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 10percent4thebigguy; 17thmonth; 7yearwar; another500billion; demsunited4kickbacks; demsunitedforukraine; nwo; pic; putinisadoofus; reality; russialosing; vlad; zelenskyqs
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To: Chewbarkah

Turns out that armored vehicles without air support are vulnerable to helicopter gunships, drones, and mines. Who could have possibly foreseen that?


That is a feature and not a bug. The Biden admin has done all they can to limit offensive fire power in the military aid given to Ukraine because they want a frozen conflict and back to business as almost usual with their American patriot hating partners in Moscow. They even gave tanks after Europe and still haven’t delivered a single one.


21 posted on 06/22/2023 2:10:15 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Mariner
Early stages of Ukrainian counteroffensive ‘not meeting expectations,’ Western officials tell CNN

Yep, Western Officials had expectations that many more Ukrainians would be killed rather than taken prisoner.

Western Officials are falling behind on their pledge to fight to the Last Ukrainian.

22 posted on 06/22/2023 2:11:32 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Mariner
Here's the actual proof it isn't ...ahem.... "going well:"

https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1671976592904429573?s=20

23 posted on 06/22/2023 2:17:20 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: Chewbarkah

Turns out that armored vehicles without air support are vulnerable to helicopter gunships, drones, and mines. Who could have possibly foreseen that?
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Who? Remember these are the glorious western trained wonder battalions….trained by a consortium of the West…..hand picked to be younger, Ukie, non “ old style” ex Soviet tactical trained….armed with western equipment…..three weeks into it, a “ fail”, huge western equipment losses, territorial gains measured in square meters, most all Ukies never even saw an Ivan….

Western intel Sat images “ picked” for them the sector to attack- now known infamously as “ Bradley Square”, the losses of Bradley’s, Leopards, AMX, MRAPs large….

That said, here is Vlad’s latest speech:

“ Putin’s speech at SPIEF 2023.
1. Russia withstood the economic blow of the West and has a solid economic foundation for further development. The United States failed to crush the Russian economy and will not succeed.

2. Russia will not close and go into autarchy. The stake will be placed on the development of relations (of all types) with the countries of Asia, Africa and Latin America and with the European frontiers. Europe is receding into the background in long-term planning.

3. Russia is gambling in the apparent Syrianization of the conflict. Just as in Syria, Russia and Iran defeated the United States and the West in a marathon distance, they also expect to win in Ukraine as part of a long-term conflict. Of course, the territory of Ukraine in the coming years will face destruction comparable to Syria, where 75% of the infrastructure was destroyed, as well as a further reduction in the population living in the territory of the former Ukraine. The responsibility for this lies with the US and the Nazi regime in Kyiv, who are killing Ukraine against Russia.

4. The Russian Federation will use nuclear weapons only as a last resort. The bet is now being placed on a long-term conventional war. More than others (besides Ukraine), Europe will suffer from this, which has already entered a recession and will become even more dependent on the United States.

5. In general, Russia is fully aware of the need to wage a Cold War 2.0 for a long time and a multi-year war in Ukraine in the style of “Syria at maximum speed”.
The goals of the NWO will not be abandoned. On the contrary, the last year of the war clearly showed that without achieving the denazification of Ukraine, other goals cannot be considered achieved.

https://t.me/NewResistance/20249

It pays to pull up Vlads numerous speeches to Africa, and the world….Vlad, like Trump, does what he says….be warned, the corrupted western MSM rarely publishes any of Vlads speeches ( warnings), very much so of what is to come.


24 posted on 06/22/2023 2:17:45 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Navy Patriot

Ukrainians want to fight and they are going to fight anyway. They beg for weapons. Those deceptively pretending to care about the “fight to the last Ukrainian” lobby for not giving it to them.

The success of this immoral cause, I pray it never comes to be, would just mean putting more Ukrainians under the cruel mass murdering terror of Russia.

In every place Ukrainians have liberated they find mass graves and torture chambers. That’s what the “peace” would look like to them.


25 posted on 06/22/2023 2:23:10 PM PDT by Krosan
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To: delta7
"The goals of the NWO will not be abandoned."

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SMO not NWO

26 posted on 06/22/2023 2:24:56 PM PDT by Neanderthal ("Knowledge is good" - Emil Faber)
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To: Chewbarkah

It’s sickening.


27 posted on 06/22/2023 2:25:43 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: Srednik

Brothers and sisters, Srednik recommends Denys Davidov,
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Sorry lost me there. Davydov took two weeks to announce Soledars fall, kept spouting the Ukies were taking Artymovsk ( Bakmut), pumped up all the now failed western wonder weapons, continuously stated Ivan was running out of ammunition, pumped up the never realized “ Ukie million man offensive”, etc…...do yourself a favor, pull up some of his old videos- compare to today, epic failed forecasts one after another….garbage in, garbage out.


28 posted on 06/22/2023 2:29:13 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Mariner

Being over 90, my military experience is pretty old fashioned but I can’t imagine any military offensive with or without armor succeeding without substantial covering fire. Without an effective artillery and air component the results will be exactly what Ukraine experienced.

And that is true in any war. What are these “experts” talking about????


29 posted on 06/22/2023 2:34:36 PM PDT by elpadre (nd )
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To: Krosan

Yes, the poor, beleaguered, misunderstood, Ukrainian National Socialist Biden Bribers, ...


30 posted on 06/22/2023 2:34:50 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Mariner
Zeeper REEeeeeing Intensifies!

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31 posted on 06/22/2023 2:49:29 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Krosan

Ukrainians want to fight and they are going to fight anyway. They beg for weapons. Those deceptively pretending to care about the “fight to the last Ukrainian” lobby for not giving it to them.


It’s not a coincide that those that given up here also want the Ukrainians to surrender. Ukrainians strength in resistance exposes their self loathing and weakness.


32 posted on 06/22/2023 2:56:58 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Krosan
"In every place Ukrainians have liberated they find mass graves and torture chambers."

What places have they "liberated?" Seems like Russia's doing most of the "liberating" these days. . .

33 posted on 06/22/2023 2:59:16 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Lolol! Bwahahaha! That’s great! Did you make that?


34 posted on 06/22/2023 3:00:47 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo
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To: Mariner

Pete Seeger wrote a song named “Waist Deep in the Big Muddy” which explains what is going on here.


35 posted on 06/22/2023 3:04:30 PM PDT by Gritty (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution. - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Rocco DiPippo

[neither confirm nor deny 😂🤣😅]


36 posted on 06/22/2023 3:16:13 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Mariner

Ya know what this means, obviously Ukraine needs MORE MOOLAH


37 posted on 06/22/2023 3:26:15 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Mariner

Our resident FR female Ukraine Propaganda Minister won’t like this news.
When are the Ukraine people going to string up Zelensky.


38 posted on 06/22/2023 3:59:02 PM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: Krosan

Then send every last Ukraine Male including the Ukraine Youth to their deaths.
Because this is the direction Zelensky is headed.
Then he will pack his high heels and pallets of American Cash
and exit Ukraine to a warmer and hospitable climate.


39 posted on 06/22/2023 4:18:20 PM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: Mariner

The settlement of Novodonets’ke is back under 🇷🇺 control after being marked as contested since the start of the 🇺🇦 offensive.

40 posted on 06/23/2023 12:18:35 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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