The Ukraine Lobby’s Latest Targets

The American Conservative ^ | June 12 2023 | Ted Galen Carpenter

[lodi90]

Nobody is invading Russia. Nobody is genocidally claiming Russians aren’t Russian. Nobody is genocidally erasing Russian cities, stealing Russian children, etc., etc.

[Sunsong]

BS

putin is trying to take over a sovereign nation

he is actually hurting russia by doing so

[Alberta's Child]

Bay of Pigs Invasion

CIA Assassination Attempts on Fidel Castro

[Basket_of_Deplorables]

Paid shills of the Ukraine lobby are here on FR, posting their propaganda every day. And from DOD, who is now legally allowed to do it. And from State, of course.

They’re not hard to spot. And you can tell when the latest talking points drop. New Argument...

Months ago, they actually were pushing to ban normal Patriots here who called them on their paid BS. Didn’t work.

Can you imagine how bad it must be on FakeBook?

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "every day"

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Consistency counts, as it forms this display.
On Facebook it's sure that there is hell to pay.

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[Allegra]

Months ago, they actually were pushing to ban normal Patriots here who called them on their paid BS. Didn’t work.

I remember that. And at least one of them was threatening FReepers with “visits from the FBI” until Jim put a stop to that.

Some of these Zeepers are the same person posting under multiple handles.

They’re a vicious lot, making threats, slinging ugly insults and reporting posts that oppose their agenda, getting them removed in an attempt to censor anybody who doesn’t support all of that money being handed to Ukraine with no accountability. Our money.

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"The Spanish-American War aside, has the U.S. actually invaded Cuba yet?"

No, not yet, but the Chinese are making that scenario more plausible by the day..

Nobody is invading Russia. Nobody is genocidally claiming Russians aren't Russian. Nobody is genocidally erasing Russian cities, stealing Russian children, etc., etc.

I couldn't say for sure about that, but the finding of (what, like six?) Fauci gain of function labs in the Ukraine would, in it self, probably be enough to drive most nations to action..

And, by the way, what you described is precisely what's happening to OUR nation......you think we should go to war because of it? Or just let them take us without a fight.??

[Basket_of_Deplorables]

Yup!

And Ukraine is being decimated. And Black Rock is lobbying HARD to get the rebuild contracts.

And Zelenski has how much stolen by now? A billion?

[Timber Rattler]

I couldn't say for sure about that, but the finding of (what, like six?) Fauci gain of function labs in the Ukraine would, in it self, probably be enough to drive most nations to action..

But that never happened...

[Timber Rattler]

So remind me again who exactly has been censored at FR?

[PIF]

When Part 2 of Putin’s new plan goes into effect - everyone will learn the truth about Putin and Russia & who is truly bloodthirsty.

May not have to wait long as Russia has heavily mined the Zaporizhia power plant and it’s 6 reactors and their cooling systems. This seems to be Part 2 of the Putin’s new Plan.

Part 1 was the mining of the Nova Kakhovka Dam and its detonation.

Part 2 will render Ukraine and several other countries uninhabitable and could make all of Europe also uninhabitable.

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"Gain of Function labs" in The Ukraine.

"But that never happened..."

:) Yeah, ok... Pay no attention to all lies that the Biden bunch are telling us about everything else, I'm sure DC wouldn't lie about those labs.....(snort)

[Lonely Are The Brave]

John Mearsheimer Ukraine Salon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-rHBRwdql8&pp=ygUQam9obiBtZWFyc2hlaW1lcg%3D%3D

[wildcard_redneck]

Russia is engaged in a Slavic civil war with a breakaway province of its country. By your reasoning, the Union should have never fought the Civil War against the breakaway Confederacy.

[wildcard_redneck]

You lie Snake. The State Department admitted publicly that there were many US-funded biolabs in the Ukraine.

[wildcard_redneck]

Claiming that the Russians are going to blow up a nuclear power plant next to Russia where the prevailing winds blow towards Russia is the height of stupidity and/or mendacity.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

This is a game of finessing the words.

Consider: "Biological Threat Reduction Program" / U.S. Embassy in Ukraine

Source: https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/sections-offices/defense-threat-reduction-office/biological-threat-reduction-program/

Understand that the politics of this is very interested in part of the issue:

"How Russia's false biolab story was echoed by the U.S. far right"

Source: https://www.npr.org/2022/03/25/1087910880/biological-weapons-far-right-russia-ukraine

So please conclude that questioning of "biolabs" is false and "far-right." And ignore the US Embassy in Ukraine statement that the US cooperates in such.

Then focus on the game between level of biolabs, and such, because strolling into the weeds of the topic becomes confusing.

What is without question is that the US was cooperating with Ukraine before the outbreak of war, because the US has been operating biolabs in many nations around the world.

Backing away from the politics of this all, and the arguments about "when" and "who" specficially, the question is "why has the US been operating biolabs around the world?" Early warning for bioweapons attacks? Really. How did that go with the recent SARS CoV2 "event, which some call an "attack?" Answer: all these US-funded biolabs didn't help one bit. Spending lots of money for biolabs. Biolabs. You know, those biolabs that haven't been there.

[PIF]

Claiming that the Russians are going to blow up a nuclear power plant next to Russia where the prevailing winds blow towards Russia is the height of stupidity and/or mendacity.

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Then why did they heavily mine the 6 reactors and their cooling systems? And the “prevailing wind” direction depends on the time of year. Besides, this is just the **immediate effects** - prevailing winds only come into play if they blow West over Europe.

You should see the chart - I don’t have a link to it - its was shown in a video which gave no link to the chart.

The inner and first ring shows all of Ukraine, Moldova, & Romania as contaminated by heavy material and uninhabitable; the second ring includes Belarus, Suni, Kursk, Belgorod and most of southern Russia fallout contaminated, along with all of the Black Sea and most of Turkey.

As for the Russians: They do not fear radioactivity as the West does: Empire of Calamity - Making Plutonium in Stalin’s Russia - https://www.ucis.pitt.edu/nceeer/2011_825-07_Brown.pdf

So the idea that fallout will fall on Russia is a non-starter, since Putin et al do not care. If you read the link.

[Timber Rattler]

"Biolabs" are not necessarily "bioweapons" or "gain-of-function" labs. You're conflating them.

Here's the truth:

Biological Threat Reduction Program

The U.S. Department of Defense’s Biological Threat Reduction Program collaborates with partner countries to counter the threat of outbreaks (deliberate, accidental, or natural) of the world’s most dangerous infectious diseases.  The program accomplishes its bio-threat reduction mission through development of a bio-risk management culture; international research partnerships; and partner capacity for enhanced bio-security, bio-safety, and bio-surveillance measures. The Biological Threat Reduction Program’s priorities in Ukraine are to consolidate and secure pathogens and toxins of security concern and to continue to ensure Ukraine can detect and report outbreaks caused by dangerous pathogens before they pose security or stability threats.

Fact Sheet on WMD Threat Reduction Efforts with Ukraine, Russia and Other Former Soviet Union Countries

Debunking Russian Lies About Biolabs at Upcoming U.N. Meetings

U.S. Biological Weapons in Ukraine—Separating the Facts From the Fiction

[wildcard_redneck]

You're just a low-rent shil for the Biden Regime.

The long-anticipated counter-offensive of Ukrainian forces trained and equipped by NATO allies has been underway for around three weeks, but so far victories have been restricted to handfuls of villages retaken. Comparing daily intelligence digest maps published by the Ministry of Defence show occupied territories in southeast Ukraine before the counteroffensive, at its commencement, and today basically unchanged.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/06/22/ukraine-counter-offensive-going-slower-than-desired-admits-zelensky/

You're a little fantasy is crashing around you. Will you learn from the experience?

Sucks to be you...