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The Ukraine Lobby’s Latest Targets
The American Conservative ^ | June 12 2023 | Ted Galen Carpenter

Posted on 06/22/2023 5:43:58 AM PDT by euram

The Ukraine lobby is the latest example of a foreign government and its American supporters having a dangerously outsize impact on U.S. policy and the overall public perspective. Activists have attempted to harass and silence opponents of the fawning U.S. support for Volodymyr Zelensky’s government. At times, Ukraine and its Western backers have fostered a campaign of outright neo-McCarthyism against critics, utterly chilling debate regarding policy toward Kyiv.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: 4threich; biden; europeonunion; freespeech; globohomo; liberalworldorder; trump; ukraine; zelensky
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1 posted on 06/22/2023 5:43:58 AM PDT by euram
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To: euram

I hope the disgusting, bloodthirsty Zeepers learn the error of their ways.


2 posted on 06/22/2023 5:50:44 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: euram

armistice - stop the bloodshed

plebiscites - put democracy to work


3 posted on 06/22/2023 5:51:45 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Zelensky is only trying to do his job and save his country.


4 posted on 06/22/2023 5:54:38 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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To: Brian Griffin
I’m not sure how you can keep a straight face when you say that, in light of the growing evidence that Zelensky is a de facto employee of the U.S. government.
5 posted on 06/22/2023 5:56:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: euram

LOL

self pity is stupid


6 posted on 06/22/2023 5:59:03 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Alberta's Child

And what evidence would that be?


7 posted on 06/22/2023 5:59:12 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: euram

No problemo, B found another 6 billion for Z.


8 posted on 06/22/2023 5:59:12 AM PDT by AU72
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To: euram
Ukraine lobby? Say it isn't so-o-o-o-o-o...........
9 posted on 06/22/2023 6:04:18 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Timber Rattler

When the U.S. is pouring more money into Ukraine in a month than the aid we give to the rest of the world in a year, and when the U.S. taxpayer is paying for the cost of basic government functions in Ukraine, you’d be hard pressed to even make the case that Ukraine is an independent nation anymore.


10 posted on 06/22/2023 6:07:45 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Brian Griffin
"Zelensky is only trying to do his job and save his country.

Well, maybe the same could be said about Putin..

11 posted on 06/22/2023 6:07:59 AM PDT by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: euram

CATO was once a Libertarian think tank. Today not so much. Presently, the U.S. will not accept Russia being in control of the Black Sea and Crimea.


12 posted on 06/22/2023 6:08:31 AM PDT by Lonely Are The Brave (A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan)
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To: Alberta's Child

That’s not evidence, just your opinion.


13 posted on 06/22/2023 6:09:34 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: unread
Well, maybe the same could be said about Putin..

By invading and destroying another?

14 posted on 06/22/2023 6:10:12 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler
Oh, OK.

And there's also no evidence that Ukraine gets anything in exchange for the bribes that have been paid to U.S. government officials over the years, I guess.

15 posted on 06/22/2023 6:14:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Timber Rattler; Alberta's Child
--- "...growing evidence that Zelensky is a de facto employee of the U.S. government." / "And what evidence would that be?"


Search engine - meet news thread.

And -- sssh! -- it's a secret.

"The United States Contributes $4.5 Billion to Support the Government of Ukraine" / U.S. Embassy in Ukraine

Source: https://ua.usembassy.gov/the-united-states-contributes-4-5-billion-to-support-the-government-of-ukraine/

"U.S. to Provide Ukraine an Extra $500 Million in Aid to Help With Government Expenses"

Source: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-04-21/card/u-s-to-provide-ukraine-an-extra-500-million-in-aid-to-help-government-expenses-MO97FubIbTMbvdulo4qP

"Yellen says U.S. to give Ukraine another $500 mln to keep government running"

Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-give-ukraine-another-500-mln-keep-government-running-treasury-2022-04-21/

"The United States Contributes $1.7 Billion to Support the Government of Ukraine"

Source: https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/press-releases/jul-12-2022-united-states-contributes-17-billion-support-government-ukraine

"US Sending ‘Billions’ to Fund Ukraine Government Operations"

Source: https://www.voanews.com/a/us-sending-billions-to-fund-ukraine-government-operations/6652145.html

"US has provided money, not just equipment, to Ukraine"

Source: https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-us-aid-ukraine-money-equipment-714688682747

16 posted on 06/22/2023 6:14:33 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: unread; Brian Griffin
--- "Zelensky is only trying to do his job and save his country." and " Well, maybe the same could be said about Putin...."

Correct. Yup. Both seem quite accurate statements.

17 posted on 06/22/2023 6:16:48 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Timber Rattler
"By invading and destroying another?"

Some folks, here in the US, are talking about doing the same thing to Cuba..... What do you think of that..

18 posted on 06/22/2023 6:18:52 AM PDT by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: unread

The Spanish-American War aside, has the U.S. actually invaded Cuba yet?


19 posted on 06/22/2023 6:19:58 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Brian Griffin

Zelensky is only trying to do his job and save his country.


So it’s only natural that those who think they have lost their country and refuse to fight for it hate those that will still fight.


20 posted on 06/22/2023 6:24:31 AM PDT by lodi90
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