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ISW: Ukrainian forces may be temporarily pausing counteroffensive operations to reevaluate tactics
The New Voice of Ukraine via Yahoo ^ | June 19th, 2023 | Olena Goncharova

Posted on 06/19/2023 8:51:44 AM PDT by Mariner

The Institute for the Study of War quoted the head of the Estonian Defense Forces Intelligence Center Colonel Margo Grosberg who said on June 16 that "we won't see an offensive (operation by Ukraine) over the next seven days.”

The Wall Street Journal similarly reported on June 17 that Ukrainian forces “have mostly paused their advances in recent days” as Ukrainian command reexamines tactics.

These reports are consistent with ISW’s recent observations of the scale and approach of localized Ukrainian counterattacks in southern and eastern Ukraine.

Ukrainian officials such as Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Maliar confirmed that counteroffensive operations are ongoing. Soldiers from the 81st and 57th Brigades have told the Kyiv Independent that Ukrainian forces are on the move, slowly advancing on the Russian forces in Donetsk Oblast.

ISW has previously noted that Ukraine has not yet committed the majority of its available forces to counteroffensive operations and has not yet launched its main effort. "Operational pauses are a common feature of major offensive undertakings, and this pause does not signify the end of Ukraine’s counteroffensive," the experts concluded.

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Maybe they have finally figured out they can't move armor without an air defense umbrella.
1 posted on 06/19/2023 8:51:44 AM PDT by Mariner
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Temporarily Paused is the same as saying we are getting slaughtered and need to pull back or continue to commit suicide.


2 posted on 06/19/2023 8:53:53 AM PDT by srmanuel
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Ukraine is already dead. 80% of women under the age of 45 have left Ukraine and are never coming back, your nation is dead once that happens.


3 posted on 06/19/2023 8:56:15 AM PDT by Lancerdancer (Don't care what you say, I am still voting Trump and still not supporting Zelensky)
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Note ISW and all these relationships among our super neocon warhawks, who pulled the Maidan Coup etc etc.


4 posted on 06/19/2023 8:56:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Lancerdancer

And tens of thousands of their men have been fed into the Victoria Nuland Meat Grinder.


5 posted on 06/19/2023 8:57:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Why are stupid people put in position of power i.e. Biden ...Ukraine sanctions accelerated the disuse of dollar as the reserve currency; long term this is bad...why don’t people understand this?

There is no military solution for Ukraine...they should have negotiated from the start...hubris is what got them here...SAD.


6 posted on 06/19/2023 8:58:53 AM PDT by bte
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Offensive operations against a dug in enemy with artillery and air superiority has NEVER been a good bet in the history of modern warfare.

This is especially true when that enemy has had months to prepare and they have degraded your artillery capability. Last year the Russians fought a war they were ill-prepared for and the Ukrainians performed heroically in a mobile defense. This year, the Ukraine has been forced to fight a war on terms that favor Russia and it shows.

The Ukrainians cannot win a war of attrition against Russia. It does not make me “pro-Putin” to say this, it is just a tragic fact for both the Ukrainians, Russians, and my kids and yours.


7 posted on 06/19/2023 9:02:06 AM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: bte

Corruption and hubris got us here.

Just a polite correction


8 posted on 06/19/2023 9:02:37 AM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: Lancerdancer

Ukraine is already dead. 80% of women under the age of 45 have left Ukraine and are never coming back, your nation is dead once that happens.


Tragic, but you are 100% correct.


9 posted on 06/19/2023 9:03:36 AM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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Nuland needs to be jailed for war crimes. Completely useless war and the dead have no recompense.


10 posted on 06/19/2023 9:09:48 AM PDT by struggle
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Maybe they have finally figured out they can’t move armor without an air defense umbrella.

I think they figured it out early. I think they had to go anyway to prove it to the Western Nations who grew weary of sending equipment that they didn’t use.

Now, it’s obvious they need an air power to remove the Russians. This is what nobody who is rational wanted to happen, because they will quickly get enough fighters to be a real threat to Russia.

Stupid war with stupid prizes.


11 posted on 06/19/2023 9:10:12 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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So much hype and investment into this counteroffensive ukraine has to win or the West looks like fools

no long range missiles = suddenly yes
no depleted uranium shells= suddenly yes
No F-16s = suddenly yes

A few F-16s likely won’t make a huge difference
Glide bombs and helicopter gun ships causing headaches

The next mission creep may be NATO (likely Polish ) troops in far westren Ukraine to free up Ukrainian troops to move to the front lines


12 posted on 06/19/2023 9:11:45 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Now, it’s obvious they need an air power to remove the Russians. This is what nobody who is rational wanted to happen, because they will quickly get enough fighters to be a real threat to Russia.
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Up until recently Russia has only used a fraction of its total airforce in Ukraine and even today still aren’t flying a huge amount of sorties

Look for media reports in coming weeks about a “no fly zone” over Ukraine. These will just be “feelers” but I’m sure people like Linda Graham
Will come out in favor


13 posted on 06/19/2023 9:18:33 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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President Grease Spot is pausing the spring/summer/winter/fall counter counteroffensive to reevaluate tactics?

How about telling the Hitler youth to go home and reform themselves?

14 posted on 06/19/2023 9:22:43 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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Oh, Ok. Dang, they had my hopes up. 😗


15 posted on 06/19/2023 9:24:32 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: Lancerdancer

According to the libtards in the USA, the men can have the babies.


16 posted on 06/19/2023 9:36:02 AM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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Oh no you don’t get to be not pro Putin just because you are calling it like you see it. Any objective observation of fact that differs from the Ukraine is winning narrative is pro Putin.


17 posted on 06/19/2023 9:40:08 AM PDT by webheart
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To: Mariner

They are pausing to advance logistics because of the gains they’ve made. /s


18 posted on 06/19/2023 9:50:06 AM PDT by glorgau
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"Ukrainian forces may be temporarily pausing counteroffensive operations to reevaluate tactics"

19 posted on 06/19/2023 9:51:29 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Mariner

Offense ain’t defense, and vice versa.


20 posted on 06/19/2023 9:53:25 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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