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Ukraine Runs Into Russian Air Superiority
Wall Street Journal ^ | 17 June 23 | Matthew Luxemoore

Posted on 06/18/2023 1:39:37 PM PDT by delta7

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To: canuck_conservative

“ revive the Partisan Campaign from WWII…”
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Go for it!

Oh, I forgot that you’re part of the OTHER-PEOPLE’S-MONEY and OTHER-PEOPLE’S-BLOOD crowd.


21 posted on 06/18/2023 2:39:52 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX’)
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To: DesertRhino

it’s not 4 or 5X the price

that’s more Russian disinfo

the gas is sold at the World price, and the shipping costs - when spread out over the millions of cubic meters capacity on every LNG ship - are almost nothing

Europe is doing just fine without Russian oil and gas ... there’s no need to go back to funding the Russian War Machine


22 posted on 06/18/2023 2:40:50 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: delta7
The wordy salvos fired from the Wall Street Journal are prepping the front line for -- leaving.

Think getting ready for the last helicopter out of Saigon, or the last transport plane out of Kabul.

Of the two long term scenarios -- kill Russia, or let Ukraine be diminished -- some in the mainstream media seem to be messaging the latter, while the Nuland types are urging the former.

This is also an indication that the current administration is divided against itself, in the same way. The battles may not be bloody, but they sure as heck will be "bloody." And unlike the PR from the thugs in the Ukraine and the thugs in Russia, the thugs in our government will do their war behind closed doors, so that we mere citizens will not see. So does it seem.

23 posted on 06/18/2023 2:41:10 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: packagingguy

“We’ve sanctioned enough countries that the dollar will lose its reserve currency status.”

Feel free to transfer your USD savings into whatever ‘reserve currency’ you wish.

Even Putin kept his savings in USD.


24 posted on 06/18/2023 2:43:15 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: dominusobiscum

They pay 4 to 5 times the price. And they were forced to because we blew Nordstream. That’s pure mafia. But congrats.


25 posted on 06/18/2023 2:44:26 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

Slava America!


26 posted on 06/18/2023 2:46:13 PM PDT by dominusobiscum (Scripture is infallible, interpretations of Scripture not so much.)
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To: BobL

Russia’s economy isn’t growing

oil and gas accounted for 1/3 of its revenues before the war, and half of that came from Europe

so now that Russia is shut out from Europe, its economy has basically shrunk by about 15%

and no, it’s not being made up by the meagre “sales to China” or “sales to India” ... that’s more Russian BS

like many police-state dictatorships, they cover for it by subsidizing food and gasoline prices, so it APPEARS that the economy is going well


27 posted on 06/18/2023 2:49:15 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: DesertRhino
They pay 4 to 5 times the price

no they don't


28 posted on 06/18/2023 2:50:42 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative
--- "Europe is doing just fine...."

I suspect you have few average income friends in Europe. Our friends are not "doing just fine." Or you have a funny definition of what "doing just fine" is.....

Check out the chart over a number of years. Doing fine does not describe our old neighbors' experiences. About doubled form 2016 to end of 2022.

See: "What German households pay for electricity"

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/what-german-households-pay-electricity

Then there's "German industry to pay 40% more for energy than pre-crisis"

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/german-industry-pay-40-more-energy-than-pre-crisis-study-says-2023-01-30/

Deutsche Welle adds: "Household energy expenditure rose in Germany by 39.1% compared to the previous year, more than four times overall inflation. Heating oil (up 87%) and natural gas (64.8%) climbed most sharply, electricity prices overall rose 20.1%. For drivers, petroleum and diesel prices at the pumps rose by 26.8%. "

https://www.dw.com/en/german-2022-inflation-a-post-war-record-of-79/a-64421304

29 posted on 06/18/2023 2:52:48 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: canuck_conservative

“hope Russia is enjoying them sanctions”

Actually the sanctions gave Russia & China the impetus to go ahead and attempt to unseat the dollar as the world reserve currency.


30 posted on 06/18/2023 2:55:47 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx

hasn’t been unseated yet, buddy

and besides, there’s nothing to unseat it


31 posted on 06/18/2023 2:57:56 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: dominusobiscum

Slava NOOB!


32 posted on 06/18/2023 2:59:54 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX’)
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To: canuck_conservative

“Russia’s economy isn’t growing”

I didn’t say their economy was growing, I said that the WORLD BANK said that Russia’s economy is growing.

If you don’t like that, make up a poster and go to DC to protest the World Bank. Otherwise quit making crap up just because your side FAILED in its attempt to bring Russia to its knees.


33 posted on 06/18/2023 3:01:17 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
from your own article -

"German companies' finances are robust, however, and a state-imposed gas price cap would help, it added.

Fears the crisis could lead to de-industrialisation and a loss of competitiveness against the United States were overdone, because labour costs and exchange rates have a bigger impact on manufacturing than energy prices,, the study said."

(in other words, Europe is doing fine without Russia, LOL)


34 posted on 06/18/2023 3:04:11 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: delta7

It is time for conservatives to understand that we too can wage war the way the DNC does, e.g., one person at time go to Target and destroy a $100 worth of merchandise, or Starbucks and open up the coffee bags, throw away the lids on tumblers, etc.

These people were never netural when it came to hating Christians or non-gays. These sick politically active corporations need to be driven from our communities. They enable pedifilies and homosexuality - they need to run out of business.


35 posted on 06/18/2023 3:05:45 PM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: BobL
--- To the 'seminar caller' from Canada, you wrote, "I didn’t say their economy was growing, I said that the WORLD BANK said that Russia’s economy is growing."

It fascinates me that much within threads on Free Republic involves assertions without citations and mis-quoted stuff, of which you write, as if stirring the pot is a game. How many times have I seen "LOL" as a comment on some thread discussing people dying? Yuck, yuck.

36 posted on 06/18/2023 3:11:13 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: canuck_conservative

Rooskie GDP took an 8% hit in 2021-22 but is expected to grow .04% this year. In other words, the bottom was hit.

As with everything else w/ this war, expectations for the doom of Roosha are six months too late.


37 posted on 06/18/2023 3:12:57 PM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: Jumper

Agreed, however the best way is to boycott them. Starve them. I no longer shop at Target, buy Bud, Yuengling, Kohls, Home Depot, frequent only fast food outlets like Chic Fillet, and don’t fly the major airlines as they are all woke.

Christian companies get my money first, then neutral companies in that order. Anything connected to the US government or NGO’s get zilch. It takes time to research the business’s but quite worthwhile.


38 posted on 06/18/2023 3:13:25 PM PDT by delta7
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To: BobL

—”I said that the WORLD BANK said that Russia’s economy is growing.”

Do you make the BS up as you type, or does your handler feed it to you?

“World Bank Russia economy
According to the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), 2022 was a bad year for the Russian economy. It is estimated that in 2022, Russia’s gross domestic product (GDP) dropped by 2.1%. Russia’s economy may continue to shrink in 2023.May 4, 2023”

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/impact-sanctions-russian-economy/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20World%20Bank,continue%20to%20shrink%20in%202023.


39 posted on 06/18/2023 3:14:22 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: DesertRhino

The rest of the BRICs are quite happy to trade with Russia.
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On that note, 30 countries have applied for entrance into the Brics-bodes not well for the US.


40 posted on 06/18/2023 3:16:18 PM PDT by delta7
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