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Russia’s Putin lectures African leaders seeking to mediate in Ukraine
The Straits Times ^ | June 17, 2023

Posted on 06/18/2023 7:10:49 AM PDT by McGruff

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Saturday gave African leaders seeking to mediate in the war in Ukraine a list of reasons why he believed many of their proposals were misguided, pouring cold water on a plan already largely dismissed by Kyiv.

The African leaders were seeking agreement on a series of “confidence building measures”, even as Kyiv last week began a counteroffensive to push back Russian forces from the swathes of southern and eastern Ukraine that they occupy.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said after meeting them in Kyiv on Friday that peace talks would require Moscow to withdraw its forces from occupied Ukrainian territory, something Russia has said is not negotiable.

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He told the delegation that Ukrainian grain exports from Black Sea ports that Russia has permitted for the past year were doing nothing to alleviate Africa’s difficulties with high food prices because they had largely gone to wealthy countries.

He said Russia had never refused talks with the Ukrainian side, which had been blocked by Kyiv. Moscow has, however, repeatedly said any peace must allow for “new realities”, meaning its declared annexation of five Ukrainian provinces, four of which it only partially controls - a red line for Kyiv.

(Excerpt) Read more at straitstimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: 17thmonth; failedinvasion; kremlindoofus; russiadelendaest
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1 posted on 06/18/2023 7:10:49 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Are African leaders shipping assault machetes to Ukraine? Zelensky must be appreciative.


2 posted on 06/18/2023 7:12:06 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: everyone

An interesting side note.

Video of Putin speaking about the negotiations with Ukraine in Turkey showing to the African leaders the signed documents with Ukraine, which led to the withdrawal of Russian troops from the Kiev, Sumy and Chernigov regions.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/69689
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2:15 PM · Jun 17, 2023

https://twitter.com/Sinnaig/status/1670133181700349952


3 posted on 06/18/2023 7:12:51 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff

Putin isn’t interested in peace

Prayers for Putin ... to kick it!!!


4 posted on 06/18/2023 7:18:35 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: more

RT @RT_com

Putin shows treaty on Ukraine’s neutrality, signed by Kiev but dumped under Western pressure

Read more: https://on.rt.com/ce5o

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4:15 AM · Jun 18, 2023


5 posted on 06/18/2023 7:24:11 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff

Russia’s Putin lectures African leaders seeking to mediate in Ukraine


This meeting took place the day after Russia admitted they targeted Kiev when these African “leaders” were in town. The foolish Africans speak only for their countries and not for the whole of Africa.


6 posted on 06/18/2023 7:31:58 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: McGruff

The Neocons have to be BANGING THEIR HEADS into a wall, as they could have kept Ukraine intact (other than Crimea, obviously) and would have never needed to empty their arsenals and bank accounts, over Ukraine. All the Neocons had to do was accept that Russian speakers in Eastern Ukraine had the right to use their language, and that Ukraine wouldn’t be used to threaten Russia.

But that was too much for the Neocons (understandable when you have people with Ukrainian backgrounds running the show in DC), and so they’re now in the process of losing everything there and being stuck having to deal with a huge bunch of Nazis in Western Ukraine when this war ends (although, I know, they’re ‘Good Nazis’).


7 posted on 06/18/2023 7:37:53 AM PDT by BobL
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To: PIF
Russia admitted they targeted Kiev when these African “leaders” were in town.

Please provide a link to your claim.

8 posted on 06/18/2023 7:45:28 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff

Sorry link service for trolls is down.


9 posted on 06/18/2023 8:01:43 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: McGruff
African Leaders will eventually figure out that it's the rise of the GloboHomoNazi/WEF West that's currently opportunistically starving and depopulating Africa and any other place they can for profit.

It may take 'em a while, in the meantime Uke Nazis, and ordinary Ukrainians are being used up at a record pace.

10 posted on 06/18/2023 8:01:56 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: canuck_conservative

Did you find a great sale on exclamation points - or inherit a box full -or is it the menopause?

I’m not sure you’ve ever posted without generously using 3 when none were needed.

I also notice you never post on threads about your Marxist government in Canada.


11 posted on 06/18/2023 8:16:47 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: BobL

LOL you are so naive

Russia never intended to let Ukraine exist in peace, they planned on taking it over by internal subterfuge (>by their installed stooge Yanukovich)

when that didn’t work, the plans for a full invasion were set in motion ...

Putin was never interested in peace, only blood & conquest


12 posted on 06/18/2023 8:20:03 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: McGruff
Ukraine’s Biggest Loss. Russia Destroyed Massive Ukrainian Force In One Area.

Ukrainian Advances End In Complete DISASTER

13 posted on 06/18/2023 8:21:10 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: canuck_conservative
they planned on taking it over by internal subterfuge (>by their installed stooge Yanukovich)

You mean the duly elected president of Ukraine?

Putin accuses US of orchestrating 2014 ‘coup’ in Ukraine

In a column for a German newspaper, the Russian president accuses Washington of manufacturing Yanukovich’s removal from office.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/22/russias-putin-accuses-us-of-orchestrating-2014-coup-in-ukraine

14 posted on 06/18/2023 8:36:30 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff

rUSSRia


15 posted on 06/18/2023 8:50:33 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: canuck_conservative

“Russia never intended to let Ukraine exist in peace, they planned on taking it over by internal subterfuge”

Link please.


16 posted on 06/18/2023 8:51:07 AM PDT by BobL
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To: McGruff

He wasn’t lecturing them. He was explaining to them how and why the Ukrainians cannot be trusted to make a peace deal. How and why NATO and the US behind Ukraine cannot be trusted to make any kind of peace deal. Ever. Because we are lying deceitful, crooked, thieving, murdering, Godless sons of bitches.

Why do you think he’s lying? Do you trust the people in DC, both elected and unelected Bureaucrats, the CIA, State, FBI, NSA, DOJ, ATF, FDA, EPA, IRS, Treasury, Education, etc., ad nauseam? What about our military holding exercises and troop movements all over the US this weekend? WTF is going on? Getting ready for something big, tell you what!


17 posted on 06/18/2023 9:02:53 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: McGruff

“duly elected” on lies, that is

he promised to move Ukraine closer to Europe during the election, then as soon as he was in power, tried moving the country into Russia’s orbit

the Ukrainian people had every right to throw out this lying traitor

good riddance to covert Russian stooges


18 posted on 06/18/2023 9:09:14 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: McGruff

That is true - Zelensky refused to do his part AGAIN after signing the agreement.


19 posted on 06/18/2023 9:10:32 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: canuck_conservative; All

Christians of the world, unite against Putin’s deep-state and his forces of invasion!
May Russia’s Neo-soviet warmongering agenda and its alliance with Americas worst enemies (China, Belarus, North Korea, Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Iran) be vanquished sooner rather than later. Amen.
In God we Trust.


20 posted on 06/18/2023 11:32:20 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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