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Zelenskyy: If Ukraine loses, U.S. must choose between the collapse of NATO or going to war
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| 6/15/23
| Miles J. Herszenhorn
Posted on 06/17/2023 6:48:57 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
I am far more cynical than you. The geography of America will always exist, as do the outlines of nations in Europe, but the internal mix of populations has become poison. The constitution has no meaning to our new arrivals, and as long as they will work for bread and lodging, aging whites will willingly stand at the back of the line to live one more day.
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posted on
06/17/2023 8:13:08 AM PDT
by
JonPreston
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To: JonPreston
We’ve been Balkanized, it will start looking a lot like Yugoslavia in the 90s.
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posted on
06/17/2023 8:15:41 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: dfwgator
I agree, altho I think it will get worse given the lust for war our Washington Betters have. They are a sick, evil bunch and their dutiful imps on this forum, the ones who are giddy for war, are just as bad.
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posted on
06/17/2023 8:18:41 AM PDT
by
JonPreston
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To: JonPreston
War is the perfect excuse to curtain freedoms, and put the machine in place to ultimately get rid of The Constitution once and for all.
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posted on
06/17/2023 8:20:11 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: budj
No, there is a 3 red option. Keep NATO and let the Russians occupy all or part of Ukraine. That’s where it gets interesting. Russia will have to occupy with a severely depleted military.
To: dfwgator
War is the perfect excuse to curtain freedoms, and put the machine in place to ultimately get rid of The Constitution once and for all.Once Biden commits the US to war, these open and frank discussions here will be stopped. Some constitution.
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posted on
06/17/2023 8:28:19 AM PDT
by
JonPreston
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To: JonPreston
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posted on
06/17/2023 8:29:11 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: dfwgator
And certainly with Lincoln.
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posted on
06/17/2023 8:30:44 AM PDT
by
JonPreston
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To: PGR88
What’s amazing is how many freepers are willing to be animated over false dilemmas.
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posted on
06/17/2023 8:58:11 AM PDT
by
lonestar67
(America is exceptional)
To: The Iceman Cometh
Zelensky is an evil little twerp. I want my money back to clean up the streets of American cities. And to feed some really poor people put out of work by the scamdemic.
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posted on
06/17/2023 9:03:08 AM PDT
by
Veto!
(FJB Sucks Rocks)
To: JonPreston
To: JonPreston
Ukraine isn’t going to lose. They may not be able to get Donbass or Crimea back. If I’m Ukraine, I’ll start building nuclear weapons right now.
To: Blurb2350
Yah. Another corrupt Pres having to go into exile with billions of US $$ in his pocket is the only impact. A widened war? Nope.
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posted on
06/17/2023 9:08:02 AM PDT
by
bobbo666
(Baizuo)
To: MinorityRepublican
If I’m Ukraine, I’ll start building nuclear weapons right nowStick with trying to be an American. As for them, they might as well start building Kool-Aid stands. Their economy is in TATTERS.
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posted on
06/17/2023 9:09:48 AM PDT
by
JonPreston
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To: JonPreston
--- "I am
far more cynical than you. The geography of America will always exist, as do the outlines of nations in Europe, but the internal mix of populations has become poison. The constitution has no meaning to our new arrivals, and as long as they will work for bread and lodging, aging whites will willingly stand at the back of the line to live one more day."
With respect, I shall disagree and be far less cynical. There is something ineffable and infectious about liberty. Socialism in all its forms isn't the way forward. Liberty remains that way. Besides, as Frank Zappa said, "people like to own things." :)
To: JonPreston
Pretty SURE that’s been the plan all along.....to get us into a HOT WAR!! Thanks, Pedo Joe!
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posted on
06/17/2023 9:24:53 AM PDT
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: JonPreston
Don’t throw us in the briar patch!
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posted on
06/17/2023 9:30:32 AM PDT
by
sheik yerbouty
( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
To: Allegra
the United States could face the "collapse of NATO"…I'm good with that! Oh and while you're at it collapse the UN too. It desperately needs collapsed.....
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posted on
06/17/2023 9:32:04 AM PDT
by
eeriegeno
(Checks and balances??? What checks and balances?)
To: JonPreston
Ukraine IS losing - winners don't say things like that. Putin is mobilizing his nuclear forces to block a NATO direct intervention. There is another option Zelensky fails to mention. which is a negotiated cease fire. This should have taken place a year ago. And no, NATO will not collapse, it will be reformed.
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posted on
06/17/2023 9:32:31 AM PDT
by
rdcbn1
To: JonPreston
Their economy is in TATTERS.There will be some form of Marshall Plan to rebuild Ukraine. But they'll have to beat Russia first.
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