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To: nwrep

The growing dishonesty of the upper military levels came to a head. The JCS were simply lying about the progress of the war. After WW2 the American public had a lot of trust in the military. The revelation of those lies are a devastating disaster for the good name of the Army. Americans felt very betrayed. The Pentagon wasn’t lying for operational security. After all Ho Chi Minh knew that we weren’t winning. The Pentagon lies were only to cover up the crashing incompetence of Generals who were way over their heads and incapable of dealing with an insurgency. Fools were using tactics designed to fight the Imperial Japanese Army or the Wehrmacht. Not the NVA.

Ellsworth did us a favor.


8 posted on 06/16/2023 1:02:01 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Seruzawa

And decades later we now know those in government are lying about everything...


12 posted on 06/16/2023 1:10:08 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Seruzawa
This supports the idea that much of the classified information in the government today is less about keeping important military secrets and more about keeping embarrassing information from becoming public.

And as we are seeing today, classified documents can now be used as leverage by the deep state to continue to operate without oversight.

27 posted on 06/16/2023 1:36:31 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Seruzawa
"Fools were using tactics designed to fight the Imperial Japanese Army or the Wehrmacht. Not the NVA."

Really? What comic book did you get that gem from? Those of us on the ground adapted quite well and killed the VC and NVA without using massed B-17s and M4 Shermans.

Yet another "expert" on our Freerepublic.

32 posted on 06/16/2023 1:48:22 PM PDT by Chainmail (How do I feel about ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: Seruzawa

What favor, by giving Biden the idea of what to do in Iraq?

The orders of what to do and not do in Vietnam came from the USSR. The USA from the start of Marxism was always in the Marxist movement’s crosshairs.


65 posted on 06/17/2023 8:58:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Seruzawa

Sorry: Afghanistan, not Iraq.


66 posted on 06/17/2023 9:00:54 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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