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To: Mariner

Yep the eastern NATO countries have refused to go into Ukraine. Therefore, NATO has already collapsed…. Leaving us isolated depleted of ammunition with our forces spread all over the world and the Chinese potential female of age call up army is 320 million.


38 posted on 06/15/2023 7:18:47 PM PDT by Therapsid (eagan the lack of food is expected to kill around 1 billion next year)
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To: Therapsid
Russia is a stalking horse for China's plan to become the world's preeminent power. Both nations see the United States and the Western democracies as weak morally and economically. Putin badly misjudged the fighting spirit of Ukraine but the protracted war is depleting NATO and U.S. military hardware, and due to deindustrialization, replacement of equipment will take more time than in the Cold War era.

Zelensky is correct when he says a Russian victory may mean the end of NATO. The Ukrainians may yet win, and retake the lost territory, even Crimea. If they fail, I can see Turkey, Hungary, and possibly Romania leaving NATO. France has asked for an invitation to the next BRICS meeting. Germany may think cheaper Russian energy is more important than staying in America's good graces. While not a NATO member, Israel may see the world balance of power shifting from Washington and London to Beijing and Moscow and act accordingly. Ditto for Japan and Vietnam.

63 posted on 06/15/2023 7:55:15 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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