He would prefer the entire world burn.
Yep the eastern NATO countries have refused to go into Ukraine. Therefore, NATO has already collapsed…. Leaving us isolated depleted of ammunition with our forces spread all over the world and the Chinese potential female of age call up army is 320 million.
NATO should have disbanded no later than 1993.
The choice is an armistice (1) at the Dnieper River, or (2) at the Sea of Azov. The counter-offensive is about pushing Russia out of Zaporizhzhia and out the Kherson west of the Dnieper, as well as at least threatening Crimea and/or the Donbas region.
Since nobody can trust Putin, consideration would have to be given to stationing NATO troops on the Ukrainian side of the armistice line as part of the armistice agreement, so as to deter future adventurism on the part of Russia.
It is a shame we didn’t do this back in 2014, but Germany said it would be provocative. That was Angela Merkel playing Neville Chamberlain achieving peace in our time.
The fact is people like Putin interpret appeasement as a sign of weakness. Appeasement only emboldens them and actually causes war instead of avoiding war. There is no good alternative to peace through strength.
As costly as this war has been to everybody involved (and I include the Russians in this), the cost of stationing NATO troops at the armistice line is nothing in comparison.
he is full of bs but desires this
Sounds like The Great Offensive is going according to hype.
First, we don’t need NATO, second, we definitely don’t need the Ukraine.
Zelensky may indeed be a lunatic but I’d bet good money that Victoria Nuland writes his script.
“Is any candidate or senator who thinks it costs too much for the United States to support Ukraine, is he ready to go to war, to fight, to send his kids,” Zelensky said Thursday, adding, “Because anyway, they will have to do this if NATO gets involved.”
I’m not letting my kids go to save your ass, Zelensky.
And the actual NATO territorial border, not Ukraine, is where the line of course should have been drawn from the start.
Feck that little weasel!
Zelenskyy (and a bunch of FReepers) would have fit into this scene in “The Wind and the Lion” just fine:
Gummere:
You realize, of course, that if we fail in even the slightest way, we’ll all be killed?
Adm. Chadwick:
Yes, and the whole world will probably go to war.
Capt. Jerome, USMC:
Gentlemen, if we fail and are killed, I certainly hope the world DOES go to war! [raises glass as a toast]
Adm. Chadwick:
The world at war!
Gummere:
A world war? Now THAT would be something to go out on...
Biden is afraid that a peace agreement that does not humiliate Russia would be a “Ukrainian loss” and therefore a blow to his own prestige.
“Collapse of NATO” should’ve occurred in 1991 when its mission was completed.
The ancient China tyrant, Cao Cao (Ts'ao Ts'ao)--a model for Xi Jingshen, and Volodymyr Zelensky--said thousands of years ago:
Sound familiar?
Again, Zelensky refuses to tell his nation and countrymen, that Crimea is beyond their reach, though maintaining a ceasefire line where the current front is . . . within reach.
The notion that Ukraine will recover every bit of land (and also be “reparated” by Russia), might not be obtainable until some future date when both Russia and Ukraine have finally learned how to be good neighbors, and Moscow miraculously becomes interested in both: behaving and good.
Ukraine does not have the strength to take Melitopol, Mariupol, and keep them, while also keeping Kharkiv and the northeast.
Zelensky jeopardizing his country and people, on a gambit of finding all the military support that he wishes, is a mistake most harmful to his country and people - regardless of all the harm to others. Ukraine loses a lot, because Ukraine will not accept how fortunate it is to have, and be able to defend, the territory and people that Ukraine has managed to have.
PS. Biden and the left (everywhere) cannot be trusted.
eff Zelensky
“Complete collapse of NATO...”
Gets my vote.
NATO is a giant money siphon on the US, a permanent entitlement for the Military Industrial Complex. Like welfare for Raytheon.
And they get to demo their latest and greatest weapons on live human beings, soon-to-be-dead Russians and Syrians and other fodder. And create soundtracked videos and fancy brochures to show our corrupt Congress over caviar lunches.
“Look how many got blowed up with this single XRF-53A1 do-hicky! You can buy 500 more for only Eleventy Zillion dollars if you act now! And by the way, Mr. Graham, we have a few board seats opening up soon. Know anyone who could fill them (wink)? Oh, and are you flying out with us on our big jet this weekend, for the photo-op in Kosovo this weekend? We’ll send you a limo full of young boys early Saturday to pick you up. Hope you can make it!
Shutting down this gargantuan wealth burning national, generational rape is what Trump tried to do. And THAT’S why they’re all still trying to stop him.
So eff NATO *spit* and damn everyone to hell who supports them and their coups and endless wars. I don’t see them sending thir kids to die, just yours. They should all see a firing squad for what they’ve done to us and the rest of the world.
When NATO collapses, I’ll dance naked under the moon and howl with glee!