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Reports of Russian casualties as they 'withdraw through their own minefields' driven back by Ukraine's counteroffensive, UK intel says
Business Insider ^ | Jun 10, 2023 | Isobel van Hagen

Posted on 06/10/2023 1:25:47 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Russian military performance has been "mixed" in the last 48 hours of fighting, as there are an increasing number of reports of Russian casualties as they "withdraw through their own minefields," according to UK intel.

In an intelligence update on Saturday, the UK's Ministry of Defence outlined the progress that had been made on both sides of the conflict in Ukraine.

"In some areas, Ukrainian forces have likely made good progress and penetrated the first line of Russian defenses. In others, Ukrainian progress has been slower," Britain's MoD said in a statement.

"Russian performance has been mixed: some units are likely conducting credible maneuver defense operations while others have pulled back in some disorder, amid increased reports of Russian casualties as they withdraw through their own minefields," the ministry added.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Russia; Ukraine
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To: Republican Wildcat

To stop the Ukraine from advancing. But they didn’t do a good job of marking them or avoiding them.


21 posted on 06/10/2023 2:24:33 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Tell me another....


22 posted on 06/10/2023 2:33:35 PM PDT by Stepan12 ("...To the American gulag with this guy.and with the beasts of the earth.")
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To: MinorityRepublican
Russian Forces Repelled All Ukranian Attacks l Ukranian Counteroffensive Failed In Every Direction

https://sonar21.com/is-a-negotiated-peace-agreement-possible-in-ukraine/

While the Western media persists in perpetuating the fantasy that Russia is suffering setbacks and looking for a way to extricate itself from the war in Ukraine, the facts on the ground show that Russia is inflicting massive casualties on Ukraine — both men and materiel — and that Russia is under no pressure to seek an end to the conflict. Nothing short of unconditional surrender will placate Russia.

Ukraine, however, has ample reasons to bring the war to an end. Rational military commanders on the Ukrainian side must now understand that their prospects for inflicting a devastating blow to the Russian military forces is becoming less likely with each passing hour. Russia’s advantages in terms of men, artillery, and air support are thwarting Ukraine’s military ambitions. I do not discount the possibility that Ukraine’s military commanders realize that continued attacks are futile and that securing a negotiated end to the conflict is their only hope of surviving. If this report is true it signals a growing rift between the military and political leaders in Ukraine. The only solution is to overthrow the government of Volodomyr Zelensky by the military and sue for peace. If that happens it will mark the defeat of NATO. Count me as a skeptic. I think the blood shed will continue.

23 posted on 06/10/2023 2:34:27 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MinorityRepublican

Fake. There are now hundreds of videos showing the opposite of what is being posted here by the Nazi Ukraine crowd.


24 posted on 06/10/2023 2:41:46 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: grey_whiskers

I am no Putin supporter. We’re he to die a painful death, that’d be okay, but I asked the same question you reference. Who plants minefields behind their positions? Maybe if the Russians were trying to lure the Ukies into the mines and then stop and bring them under fire. Not likely.


25 posted on 06/10/2023 2:42:34 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: grey_whiskers

armies do not plant minefields in their own rear.

Western armies do not plant minefields in their own rear. Russia does things differently.

Its hard to explain in words, but here there are 3 separate lines of defense - each further south than the preceding one.

Each line has trenches, bunkers, dugouts connected at various points along a field or tree line. In front of each trench network are minefields, in front of that dragons teeth, mine fields, then anti-tank ditches, and in front of that minefields.

If the enemy breaches all the obstacles of the first line, then the defenders have to fall back toward the second line which is built like the first. So the retreating troops have to cross their own mine fields to get to safety.

This is trench warfare, not like anything seen since WWI-WWII.

If the enemy is mobile and pushes hard, the retreating troops have no tine to negotiate safe passage without putting the second line at risk.

In the Iraqi-Iran war, the Iranians used children on motorbikes to clear minefields; here, Russian commanders uses his trucks and armor to do the same job. Remember Russians consider troops & equipment expendable ...


26 posted on 06/10/2023 2:43:24 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Your wasting your breath, no matter what Putin is winning
Imagine they are just weak with hunger waiting for mom to lower some hot pockets and red I’ll to them in the basement

Just laugh at them and save your energy
Ukrainian flag could be raised over kremlin and the would still say everything is going according to plan


27 posted on 06/10/2023 2:44:04 PM PDT by blitz128
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To: Kazan

Your still funny enjoy your posts


28 posted on 06/10/2023 2:45:21 PM PDT by blitz128
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To: marcusmaximus

Thanks for nothing. That’s useless.


29 posted on 06/10/2023 2:45:21 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: blitz128

Russian troops having HIMARS tungsten balls for dinner on the Zaporizhzhia front tonight.


30 posted on 06/10/2023 2:47:13 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: grey_whiskers
Umm, armies do not plant minefields in their own rear.

You're right, of course!

Never in the history of modern warfare has a soldier accidentally detonated a landmine from his own side. Landmines are always placed where a retreating soldier couldn't possibly detonate them accidentally. Retreats are always very orderly matters. There is no such thing as a "rout."

There is also no such thing as "friendly fire." How, after all, could anyone be so stupid or careless as to fire upon members of his own side!?

Finally: No one ever makes mistakes. Especially the Russian military. All those reports about their 100-km columns of tanks getting stuck and otherwise falling apart during the failed attempt by Putin's forces to capture Kyev were pure fiction.

Regards,

31 posted on 06/10/2023 2:47:36 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Is this the same British intelligence that told us Donald Trump is a Russian spy?


32 posted on 06/10/2023 2:48:15 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance
Fake. There are now hundreds of videos showing the opposite of what is being posted here by the Nazi Ukraine crowd.

You're understating the matter! There are, in fact, MILLIONS of videos showing just that!

And I'm going to post links to them... someday.

Regards,

33 posted on 06/10/2023 2:50:09 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Not according to the people who are actually there. You make crap up or repost crap.


34 posted on 06/10/2023 2:50:26 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: xkaydet65

some retreats

are planned entrapments


35 posted on 06/10/2023 2:50:45 PM PDT by Firehath
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To: marcusmaximus

This photo is from 2022. Try harder.


36 posted on 06/10/2023 2:53:17 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Kazan
The only solution is to overthrow the government of Volodomyr Zelensky by the military and sue for peace.

Or: Putin strokes out.

I, personally, am hoping for the latter.

Failing that: A bullet to the back of his head would likewise be an acceptable solution.

Regards,

37 posted on 06/10/2023 2:53:44 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

2023. Today.

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1667621787528491010

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1667626922338025472


39 posted on 06/10/2023 2:59:26 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: ganeemead
What tungsten balls doink? #zaporizhzhia #himars


40 posted on 06/10/2023 3:02:06 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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