Posted on 06/10/2023 11:36:34 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
LANSING, Mich. A Michigan House committee plans to hold a hearing on Tuesday regarding two bills that would amend the penal code and make vaguely defined “hate” speech a felony subject to severe penalties.
House Bills 4474 and 4475 state, “A person is guilty of a hate crime if that person intimidates or harasses another individual; causes bodily injury or severe mental anguish to another individual; uses force or violence on another individual; damages, destroys, or defaces any real, personal, digital, or online property of another individual; or threatens, by word or act, to do any of the above described actions, if the person, regardless of the existence of any other motivating factors, intentionally targets the individual or engages in the action based in whole or in part on any of the following actual or perceived characteristics of another individual.”
Among other things, the bill covers anything that could disparage a person’s race, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, or age.
“Under this amended criminal statute if you speak out against abortion, teenage transgender males showering with females and taking their spots on women’s teams, illegal immigrants flooding our nation, or simply refuse to use a person’s preferred pronouns, you will be prosecuted for a felony and can receive up to 5 years in prison and be fined $10,000.00,” attorney David Kallman wrote over the weekend. “But rest assured this law will not be enforced equally. If you want to attack pro-life pregnancy centers, assault others, or burn government buildings like Antifa, BLM, and other leftist groups, feel free to continue with your lawless behavior. This law is not meant for you.”
https://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(2hqz0ybl5xu02zznhjwfd1im))/milegPrint.aspx?page=BillStatus&objectname=2023-HB-4474
https://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(jfhciitezxxv5yfazplqajql))/mileg.aspx?page=BillStatus&objectname=2023-HB-4475
you’re right, just as GrandJediMasterYoda wrote “a hate crime if that person intimidates or harasses another individual”
Good God, there are so many ways that can be interpreted. “
Now that's funny. The inversion: Hate speech on your lawn could be considered a campaign....
Defund government.
It doesn't really work that way in practice. Those laws only work against you. The "Progressives" are exempt.
There is a hidden codicil in all of those "Hate Crime" laws. "It's not a crime if a Democrat does it".
Best not to let these "laws" get established in the first place.
Yup... a Gross violation of the 1st amendment. It is about time that these legislators face penalties for these gross violations. Just having the USSC vote up or down is not enough to stop these kinds of infringements. They can certainly be forced to pay all court costs and damages to anyone they arrest.
It’s not just the Left that is trying to subvert the First Amendment. The focus might be slightly different but the free speech principle violated is the exact same. If Michigan’s law is unconstitutional then so is Florida’s.
Gov. DeSantis signs law cracking down on hate speech, says Florida ‘led the way’ fighting antisemitism
Be the first ones out of the gate.
Pride displays cause me anguish because of my religion.
Refusing to pray with me is highly insulting.
A BLM sign makes me feel excluded.
Clog the courts!!
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It's all subject to interpretation and prosecutorial discretion. Which means ...
Insults against Christians and whites is protected speech.
Stating discomforting facts and statistics about other groups is a crime.
Not having the correct sign(s) on your lawn would be an additional hate crime. These charges could pile up quick.
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Why do I suspect that no one is ever going to give one small crap about MY mental anguish? A law like this actually applied would result in EVERYONE in jail.
Anyone coming to my house trying to arrest me for something I said outside of yelling fire in a crowded theater is going to have a very big problem.
A felony? Are felons allowed to vote in Whitlerland?
Hi.
Who can define “hate speech?” A legislative body in some state or city? The party in power nationally?
Who then can give LEOs the authority to enforce said law? What are the consequences for breaking the law? Are they uniform across state lines?
Kinda sounds arbitrary don’t ya think?
Look at what the democrats (Biden and his DoJ and FBI) are doing to Donald Trump. Remember everyone in Washington, media and academia said president Trump’s speeches were full of “hate.”
Unfortunately the 1st amendment and the free speech train has departed and Lady justice with it.
Bloat.
5.56mm
Sorry azzholes but your friggin’ fag “hate speech” isn’t covered in my U.S. Constitution, BITCHES!!! Knock off your fascist Nazi bullsh*t! The First Amendment TRUMPS your Nazi pigsh*t.
Bkmk
The spawn of political correctness.
Those voting for these bills are giving me “severe mental anguish” Can they be charged with a felony?
Hmmm... I’ve always thought all crime was a “hate crime.” Think about it. Can you name a crime that is a love crime?
“Hands up and give me all your money” isn’t exactly loving.
We desperately need a hangin judge for these pukes
Unconstitutional. If not struck down, this is tyranny and those affected are slaves.
Well said.
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