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To: stanne
Tiny particles that you can survive unless you have severe pulmonary issues. People on social media screaming about how state needs to be closed would have committed suicide had they lived near the factories of the Newark, NJ in my fathers youth, let alone sitting in cars for years with smoking parents.

Again an annoyance that will pass - not cause for a public health emergency. People aren’t dropping dead like flies in the streets here but they are sure acting like it.

46 posted on 06/07/2023 11:27:47 PM PDT by Clemenza
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To: Clemenza

‘ Tiny particles that you can survive unless you have severe pulmonary issues. People on social media screaming about how state needs to be closed would have committed suicide had they lived near the factories of the Newark, NJ in my fathers youth, let alone sitting in cars for years with smoking parents.
Again an annoyance that will pass - not cause for a public health emergency. People aren’t dropping dead like flies in the streets here but they are sure acting like it.’

I did grow up around newark. My pulmonologist is acutely interested in a spot on my lung he attributes to that.

Tge air around New York today is worse. It is full of ash. Particulate matter. Any clue about the incidence of pulmonary disease among those who spent time cleaning up around ground zero downtown? It’s high. Particulate matter

Check what the VA is recognizing for having spent months inhaling burn pile matter in Saudi in 1990

The smoke stacks of northern New Jersey in the ‘50s - ‘70s not only had filters, which this doesn’t have, but they were cleaned up for a reason.

I spoke with a family member yesterday 70 mikes outside of Manhattan. She couldn’t finish a sentence without coughing. She said she couldn’t see tge house across the street. That’s not precipitation induced fog. It’s particulate matter.

She said her eyes were burning. Inside the house. Spoke w someone in New Jersey at the shore, one in Connecticut who’d just cancelled her flight anther in Long Island who is airline pilot got that report. They weren’t freaking out as someone has accused them of doing.


53 posted on 06/08/2023 4:01:09 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Clemenza

Both of my parents were from, what is now known as, the “iron bound” section. I remember it as being called “down neck”. I grew up in 50s & 60s, not far away from Newark, in a highly industrial town called Linden, where the sun rose over Exxon (back then it was called Esso), and set over Merck.

Back then, you could tell which way the wind was blowing from the smell in the air. If the wind was from the east you smelled Exxon’s refinery, from the south, it was General Aniline (organic solvents), from the southwest it was Teneco (coffee), from the west Merck, and from the North, no distinct smell, which we though of as being fresh air.


70 posted on 06/08/2023 6:26:15 AM PDT by FMBass (Que sais Je)
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