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D-Day dawns for Ukraine
The Washington Post ^ | June 6, 2023 | David Ignatius

Posted on 06/07/2023 12:38:58 AM PDT by McGruff

It was bracing that Ukraine launched its counteroffensive against Russian invaders as we celebrate the anniversary of the 1944 D-Day landings this week. This assault could turn the tide of the battle for Ukraine, just as the Allied assault on the Normandy beaches altered the trajectory of World War II.

Military campaigns are rarely all or nothing, but this one comes close. If Ukraine can drive back an already shaky Russian army, it stands a chance of forcing Moscow to bargain for an end of its failed invasion. But if Ukraine fails, it would be a bitter blow to the country’s weary population and could endanger continued support from some restless NATO members.

Biden administration officials believe the offensive began on Monday with a Ukrainian thrust south along multiple axes.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: delusionalwashpost; neoconpropaganda; propaganda; washingtoncompost

1 posted on 06/07/2023 12:38:58 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff
More like Debacle-Day.

2 posted on 06/07/2023 12:49:39 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: McGruff

I moved from the Washington DC area to Texas in late 2012. One thing I don’t miss at all is the Washington Post...


3 posted on 06/07/2023 12:56:32 AM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: ganeemead

How vile of you. Sarcasm about the paper lining birdcages floors nationwide, not to mention homeless illegals sleeping on the DC streets. I wouldn’t discipline my dog with that rag.

Hope you like Texas. Keep it Red. Regards.


4 posted on 06/07/2023 1:11:38 AM PDT by Equine1952
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To: McGruff

“D-Day for Ukraine?”…Oh…, they mean “Dollar Day”, in which we “get” to send more money we don’t have to Ukraine so that their top officials can continue to live in corrupt luxury. Almost brings a tear to the eye.


5 posted on 06/07/2023 1:31:49 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.y )
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To: McGruff

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6 posted on 06/07/2023 2:37:45 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: McGruff

The comments oughta be good.


7 posted on 06/07/2023 3:49:50 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: noiseman

“Corrupt luxury”, eh? Yeah, people take luxury vacations in Kyiv.


8 posted on 06/07/2023 3:51:41 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: McGruff

Support for this proxy war is fading fast. The touted Ukrainian counteroffensive is a Hail Mary attempt to regain some territory and then “force” the Russians to the negotiating table. It is a fool’s errand.

Biden and his incompetent and dangerous national security team wanted this war and now they are stuck. Fighting to the last Ukrainian in order to remove Putin and weaken the Russian military has not worked. NATO is weaker and more divided. Growing domestic political opposition to the war is spreading throughout Europe and the US.

Yesterday, a compromised Joe Biden responded to an ad hoc question from the media on our support for Ukraine by saying, “We’re not leaving.” Makes one wonder about the extent of our involvement in Ukraine. And now we know from Comer that the $5 million bribe mentioned in the FBI CHS document came from Ukraine.

The war in Ukraine has become an albatross around Biden’s neck. The longer it goes on, the more desperate Biden and his team will get. Escalation, intended or unintended, is a real possibility. Blinken, Nuland, Sullivan, Austin, and Milley are at the helm of this ship of fools. Fasten your seatbelts, America, you are in for a bumpy ride.


9 posted on 06/07/2023 4:56:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: McGruff
If you need a good laugh, check out Ignatius' wikipedia entry. For example,
Ignatius's coverage of the CIA has been criticized as being defensive and overly positive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ignatius
LOL!
10 posted on 06/07/2023 5:38:46 AM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: McGruff

The Ukraine offense began last week and is not going well according to this article in moonofalabama: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/06/no-such-propaganda-delusions-will-not-win-the-war.html#more.

So, who to believe?? The Washington Post or moonofalabama???

an interesting dilemma!!


11 posted on 06/07/2023 5:51:01 AM PDT by elpadre (nd )
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To: kabar

Totally agree with all of your comments.


12 posted on 06/07/2023 8:14:25 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: kabar

+1


13 posted on 06/07/2023 8:16:09 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: popdonnelly

When is Zelensky in Kiev? He’s been in Washington, D.C., New York, NY, Japan (for the G-7 meeting), and lots of other places, but haven’t seen him in Kiev lately. I guess he hosted McConnell at some point, right?

Plus, he’s got to get that 10% to the “Big Guy”, ya know...


14 posted on 06/07/2023 9:11:42 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: McGruff
Is First Stage Of Ukranian Counteroffensive Really Failed

Disaster Day in Ukraine: Kakhovka Dam Destroyed, Ukraine Suffers Heavy Defeat, Incl 8 Leopard Tanks

15 posted on 06/07/2023 9:31:33 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: popdonnelly
“Corrupt luxury”, eh? Yeah, people take luxury vacations in Kyiv.

You completely missed the point. Ukraine is consistently listed as either the most corrupt nation in Europe, or the second-most corrupt after Russia. Zelensky’s wife was widely reported to have spent over 42,000 Euros several months ago at one store in Paris (though this particular story is disputed), and Zelensky himself was revealed in the Pandora Papers to have secret accounts stashed away in the British Virgin Islands. Seymour Hersch reported that the Ukrainians have been skimming money off the top of fuel aid provided by the U.S., with Zelensky himself having embezzled $400 million so far. I’ve also seen reports that about 60% of financial aid provided to Ukraine has been stolen by Zelensky and others in the ruling class, and we also know that many of the weapons provided by the U.S. immediately showed up for sale on the black market.

But just keep sending them money we don’t have, while we also deplete our own weapons and ammunition stores, because some on our side see this as their opportunity to finally “get the Russkies.” I was as much a cold warrior during the 70s and 80s as anyone else on the right, and the Soviets were every bit the evil empire that Reagan said they were, but this is not the 1980s. Yep, Putin is a brutal thug, and no, he should not have invaded Ukraine. But the geopolitical dynamic today is not the straightforward U.S./Europe vs. the Soviet Union dynamic of the past. By far the most dangerous enemy today in the long run is the globalist cabal that is trying to stamp out the last vestiges of national sovereignty across the globe so that they can usher in a totalitarian global government, and Europe and now (under Biden) the U.S. are unfortunately the prime movers pushing it. America under Trump and Putin-led Russia were the two most prominent nations remaining that were still stubbornly clinging to their national sovereignty. Putin has also been adamantly opposed to the “woke” agenda of the globalists. THAT is why they had to take out Trump (which they accomplished) and why they have been gunning for Russia. Putin has undeniably made his own bed, but the globalist west also did everything possible to goad him into invading Ukraine. They wanted this war, and among other objectives they have been using it to drain America’s resources and make it even less prepared for what is likely an unavoidable conflict with China, who is our real near-term adversary (not Russia). I believe that the globalists have left China (who also defends their own national sovereignty and tries to exploit the globalists) alone for now because they are useful to them in the short term. China is temporarily useful because they help the globalists frustrate the efforts of the U.S. to defend its own interests. But the time is certainly coming at some point when China will have served its purpose and at that point the globalist cabal will turn against them as well, because in the end every nation is to be forced to submit to global government.

So there is just the tip of the iceberg of what is really going on today, but you just keep distilling the Ukraine situation down to “get Ivan.”

16 posted on 06/07/2023 11:17:53 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.y )
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To: noiseman
"so that their top officials can continue to live in corrupt luxury."
While the average Ukrainian male, teen to sixty, is snatched off the street and sent to die for "Vaterland." Meanwhile Klaus and the WEF wishing for depopulation hope the war never ends but spreads. Often I wonder if Zelenskyy and Putin aren't in cahoots working for the Great Reset.
17 posted on 06/07/2023 1:47:56 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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