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Ukraine war: Wagner boss rubbishes Russian claims of Ukrainian casualties {Russian claim for repelling Ukrainian counter attack said to be false}
BBC ^ | 6th June 2023

Posted on 06/06/2023 7:52:41 PM PDT by Cronos

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin dismissed Russia's claims to have inflicted heavy losses on Ukraine in the Donbas when Kyiv attempted offensive action.

Prigozhin said the claims were "simply wild and absurd science fiction".

But Russia's defence ministry doubled down on the claims on Tuesday, saying Ukraine suffered over 3,700 casualties.

Russia said the attack was part of a Ukrainian "long-promised offensive" in the Donetsk region, which took place over Sunday and Monday.

Ukraine's military said on Monday that it had no information about a major attack in the region, and that it wouldn't comment on claims it called "fake".

Speaking to state media, Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu insisted that his forces had inflicted over 3,715 casualties on Ukraine during the attack and destroyed dozens of pieces of military equipment.

"The attempts at an offensive have failed. The enemy has been halted. Russian soldiers and officers displayed courage and heroism in the battles," Mr Shoigu said, adding that 71 Russian troops died in the fighting.

However, Prigozhin was quick to hit out at the defence ministry's claims on Monday evening, saying the claims of a huge success would amount to a "massacre".

"Therefore, I think that these are just some wild fantasies," he wrote on Telegram. He also accused Russian forces of "slowly" withdrawing from the village of Berkhivka on the outskirts of Bakhmut, calling it a "disgrace".

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia; Ukraine
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On Monday Wagner group said it had detained a regular Russian army officer, who allegedly opened fire on a Wagner vehicle in Ukraine.

In a video released by the group, the officer said that the incident happened while he was drunk, and that he had opened fire due to his dislike for Wagner

1 posted on 06/06/2023 7:52:41 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

The modern BBC is so dishonest that I’m compelled to believe that the Russian accounts must be 100 % accurate.


2 posted on 06/06/2023 7:54:59 PM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: Cronos
Disaster Day in Ukraine: Kakhovka Dam Destroyed, Ukraine Suffers Heavy Defeat, Incl 8 Leopard Tanks
3 posted on 06/06/2023 7:58:00 PM PDT by Kazan
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JIMMY DORE: If you support the Ukraine war you are the biggest & dumbest sucker since the last bunch of dumb suckers who supported the last bullsh*t war
 
06/06/2023 9:30:52 AM PDT · by RandFan · 64 replies
twitter ^ | June 6 | Jimmy Dore
@jimmy_dore Americans are the MOST propagandized people on earth & have absolutely no idea they are. If you support the Ukraine war you are the biggest & dumbest sucker since the last bunch of dumb suckers who supported the last bullsh*t war. RE: @blackintheempir We've now been told Russia blew up their own bridge, was shelling their own nuclear power plant, blew up their own pipeline and now blew up a dam that cuts off water to Crimea which is one of the places they went to war to protect.
 
 
Kevin McCarthy Quashes Senate Republican Pitch for Ukraine Aid Supplemental Package
 
06/06/2023 7:23:54 AM PDT · by ChicagoConservative27 · 26 replies
Breitbart ^ | 06/06/2023 | Sean Moran
Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) said on Monday a Senate Republican package to provide additional Ukraine aid in supplemental spending is not “going anywhere” in the House. McCarthy signaled to Punchbowl News that any additional aid for Ukraine’s protracted conflict with Russia would have to come from the annual appropriations process as part of the Pentagon’s $866 billion in discretionary spending, which was agreed to in the debt ceiling deal, otherwise known as the Fiscal Responsibility Act.

 


4 posted on 06/06/2023 8:00:31 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Kazan

That’s false. Even Prigozhin said it was a lie


5 posted on 06/06/2023 8:00:53 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

If there were that many dead we would be shown the carnage


6 posted on 06/06/2023 8:03:46 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: BrexitBen

Except that Prigozhin said all of this himself on a Russian-media Telegram channel.


7 posted on 06/06/2023 8:10:31 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Cronos

In another thread, I applauded Russia for having defeated the Ukranian forces, killing some 3,000 Ukes.

Guess I’ll have to take back that congratulation and wait for further reports. I’ll demand proof next time. But, FR Russkies don’t need proof, so, I guess I’ll wait to see what they think.


8 posted on 06/06/2023 8:13:46 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Cronos

3,700 killed? Where are the bodies?


9 posted on 06/06/2023 8:30:41 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Cronos

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin would have been killed by Putin for reporting against the Russians.


10 posted on 06/06/2023 10:55:44 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: minnesota_bound

He’s setting up his own power base. Putin hasn’t defined a successor, so expecting a struggle for power. Prigozhin has put in his bid


11 posted on 06/06/2023 11:53:20 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Yevgeny Viktorovich Prigozhin is a Russian oligarch, mercenary chief, and a close confidant of Russian president Vladimir Putin. Prigozhin is sometimes called “Putin’s chef”, due to owning restaurants and catering companies that provide services for the Kremlin.


12 posted on 06/07/2023 12:23:21 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Timber Rattler

Yup. How to tell that Putinists are gullible beyond belief.

1. Russia tells them everything they say is true.

2. Russians make a claim. It’s automatically true.

3. Russian who oughta know if it’s true or not, says it’s true. This proves it’s true.

4. Another Russian who is also in the “oughta know” camp says it’s NOT true. Does not compute! Does not compute!

5. BBC reports what second Russian said. Triggers the bot, forces a reboot.

6. BBC lies, Russians tell the truth. Ignoring the provenance of the story, the first Russian was telling the truth and the second Russian is a western propagandist.


13 posted on 06/07/2023 2:07:19 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: Cronos

Enough with the Propaganda from both sides.


14 posted on 06/07/2023 7:10:18 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( Less Lindell CONS, More AZ Style Audits)
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