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1 posted on 06/03/2023 5:48:00 PM PDT by elpadre
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The Communist Perspective usually is not accurate about anything in reality except hate and evil, and using those two things to advance a political agenda and acquire power.


2 posted on 06/03/2023 6:00:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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” it's not the result of mismanaging our security situation in Europe. It's the result of not respecting the way we want to manage security in Europe,” the Dutch minister said.”

hmmmmm .... that's a head scratcher for me .... I think.

4 posted on 06/03/2023 6:10:56 PM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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I believe Cui Tiankai has a point. Was the constant enlarging NATO eastward improving peace in Europe?? Or was it a building threat to others???

In the world of, “what if’s.” What if NATO had not taken in Poland and the others? Could the new countries formed after the USSR break-up, including Russia, been developed into nations friendly to NATO and the US, rather than adversarial???

I believe under the right leadership it could have happened. I also believe a Trump could have made it happen. Based on the negotiations when Germany was re-unified, I believe that was a goal.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early” />


5 posted on 06/03/2023 6:14:46 PM PDT by elpadre (nd )
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A Dutch lesbian Royal…former mayor of Amsterdam. Perfect as a defense minister to lecture a serious Chinese man.

Laughable


6 posted on 06/03/2023 6:21:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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“In 1991-1992, we repeatedly promised the Russians verbally and in writing that if they withdraw 100,000 troops from Germany and allow the country to reunite within NATO, then we will not move NATO an inch east. Since then, we've moved the block a thousand miles east and opened up 14 new countries (note - now there are 15). The Russians warned then-Ambassador-now CIA chief Bill Burns that if NATO entered Ukraine, it would be a red line and should not be crossed. Let's put ourselves in the place of the Russians. My uncle (President Kennedy) always said, "Put yourself in your opponent's shoes." - Robert Kennedy Jr.:
8 posted on 06/03/2023 6:41:07 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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“We will continue with our Asian ways of managing our security situation...”

“Sometimes I sit and wonder, in my artless Japanese way, why it is that I am so much more attractive than anybody else in the whole world.” - Gilbert and Sullivan


12 posted on 06/03/2023 7:02:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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“war in Ukraine...the result of not respecting the way we want to manage security in Europe,” the Dutch minister said.

Dissed, eh?


13 posted on 06/03/2023 7:06:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Communist China has had its fingers deep in the destabilization of Europe, and this country for a very long time. If there is indeed a failed security architecture in Europe, they been involved in it. Here too.


14 posted on 06/03/2023 7:18:24 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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Translation:>> we Chinese/Asians, do not want to be a subservient client state of the USA via NATO, and you Europeans are idiots for subjugating yourselves to it and allowing the Americans to exploit you.


18 posted on 06/03/2023 7:48:08 PM PDT by CapandBall
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She has superior opinion according to her supporters.


22 posted on 06/03/2023 8:40:16 PM PDT by Jumper ( )
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