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Lake Maggiore boat accident: Questions remain over spy deaths
BBC ^ | 3 June 2023 | Sofia Bettiza

Posted on 06/03/2023 2:59:22 AM PDT by csvset

BBC News, Rome

The story of a boat that sank on Lake Maggiore on 28 May has elements of a spy novel.

Four people tragically drowned on the picturesque and popular lake south of the Swiss Alps.

One was a former agent from Israel's spy agency Mossad, two were Italian intelligence officers and the fourth victim was a Russian woman.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Iran; Israel; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 202305; 20230528; alonzi; annabozhkova; barnobi; birthdayparty; boat; boataccident; boatingaccident; capsized; carlonocerino; claudioalonzi; claudiocarminati; erez; germany; iran; isolatedincidents; israel; italy; lakemaggiore; lombardy; maggiore; mossad; russia; simonierez; sofiabettiza; spies; spooks; switzerland; tizianabarnobi; unitedkingdom
'An apocalypse descended upon us'

There is huge interest in the accident and public prosecutor Carlo Nocerino has been tasked with finding out what happened. He says 13 of those on board were Italian agents and eight were Israeli agents. Only the captain, Claudio Carminati, and his Russian wife did not work in intelligence.

The cruise was planned to celebrate the birthday of someone on board. The 15-metre-long boat was an apt choice - it was called "Good…uria", a play on words that means "pleasure".

Mr Nocerino added that the boat only had capacity for 15 passengers, but there were eight more than that aboard.

It is being reported that the overcrowding made it harder for the captain to manoeuvre the boat in adverse weather conditions.

Overloaded and bad weather , deadly combo.


1 posted on 06/03/2023 2:59:22 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

Was it a three hour tour?


2 posted on 06/03/2023 3:06:24 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: csvset

I would’ve thought “intelligence agents” are smarter than your average bear.

Wrong again.


3 posted on 06/03/2023 3:20:17 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

They AREN’T DEAD is my bet!!


4 posted on 06/03/2023 3:36:59 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: BradyLS

The Captain in this case will have charges made up...I doubt that he gets anything less than 20 years in prison. But I would imagine he disappears within a week or two.


5 posted on 06/03/2023 3:49:33 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: BradyLS
All those spooks in one spot, an overloaded boat !

What the hell was the captain thinking ?

Going to need a bigger boat !

6 posted on 06/03/2023 3:50:55 AM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: Jonty30

I betcha A LOT of firearms were lost to this boat accident


7 posted on 06/03/2023 4:11:04 AM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: csvset

Nothing to see here. This didn’t happen because there was no boat and all the people on it weren’t there.


8 posted on 06/03/2023 4:32:23 AM PDT by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: C210N

Paging Jason Bourne to the courtesy phone.


9 posted on 06/03/2023 4:40:32 AM PDT by midwest_hiker
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To: csvset

Remember several years ago during Obama’s term when a bunch of our CIA people in Afghanistan got killed while holding a birthday party for what turned out to be an an Qaeda or Taliban double agent?


10 posted on 06/03/2023 4:47:47 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: csvset

Two Italian spooks died and one Israeli spook died, and also the Russian wife of the Captain.
The captain and most of the other passengers survived.


11 posted on 06/03/2023 4:57:34 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

I don’t know about a party, but yes a double agent . They were supposedly recruiting him.


12 posted on 06/03/2023 4:57:47 AM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: csvset
and his Russian wife did not work in intelligence

Objection, your honor. Assuming facts not in evidence.

13 posted on 06/03/2023 7:25:08 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Jonty30

Dang! All my guns and ammo were on that boat!


14 posted on 06/03/2023 7:42:49 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: pepsionice

Appears Capt lost his wife in the incident as well.


15 posted on 06/03/2023 7:53:40 AM PDT by HonkyTonkMan ( )
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To: HonkyTonkMan

“Appears Capt lost his wife in the incident as well.”

Ah ha! The REAL reason for the “accident”.


16 posted on 06/03/2023 9:06:08 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: csvset

Something else happened or about to happen?.


17 posted on 06/03/2023 9:25:12 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: piasa

They dramatized that event in “Zero Dark Thirty.” The CIA chief has a plan to bring a local Taliban warlord over to “our side” and prepares a fete for him at the base. The warlord instead tests the CIA’s gullibility by agreeing to meet and sends over a suicide bomber. The rest is history.


18 posted on 06/03/2023 10:11:38 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

The event was known as the Camp Chapman Attack. I got the particulars wrong. But, as we know, a spectacular screwup.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Chapman_attack


19 posted on 06/03/2023 10:17:39 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: csvset

Only the captain, Claudio Carminati, and his Russian wife did not work in intelligence.

Russian wife.... she was a spy.


20 posted on 06/03/2023 10:20:04 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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