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To: McGruff

Crossing the border makes it obvious that this is the beginning of WWIII unless reasonable people get control of Ukraine.

Self defense is one thing, crossing borders is quite different.

And constantly saying Putin is helpless and doomed is a mistake. He has some nasty weapons he has not used yet and it is a mistake to bait him into using them.


10 posted on 06/01/2023 8:41:29 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: old curmudgeon
Crossing the border makes it obvious that this is the beginning of WWIII

just curious, did you also say that on Feb. 24, 2022, when Putin's troops illegally crossed the border into Ukraine?


11 posted on 06/01/2023 8:50:14 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: old curmudgeon

Russia destroyed hundreds of miles of the Ukraine-Russia international border years ago. If that wasn’t WWIII then this isn’t either.


15 posted on 06/01/2023 9:03:33 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: old curmudgeon

“”Self defense is one thing, crossing borders is quite different.””

Your rule is that when the country next door invades, all the fighting must be limited to only your own people and cities, and farms, and the invader’s side of the border must remain peaceful, uninvolved except for their own military use, and untouched?

Your rule would surely make invading neighbors easier, by making the invading country immune to hostilities, tactical/strategical engagements, and repercussions.

If Ukraine could use that rule, then they could have invaded Russia on February 3, 2022 and gained immunity from the war except for the forces inside of Russia.


19 posted on 06/01/2023 9:09:35 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: old curmudgeon

“(Putin) has some nasty weapons”

So we’ve been hearing for the past sixteen months. Where are they?


25 posted on 06/01/2023 9:30:28 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: old curmudgeon

“Self defense is one thing, crossing borders is quite different.”

IF you read my posts, you know I’m not a rah-rah-send-lots-of-money-to-Ukraine type of guy.

But Russia started this and Ukraine has the absolute right to attack into Russia in response.

Caveat. I don’t know if this is just symbolic, or a real threat to Russian rear lines, or a bunch of GD lies and if so, who’s lying this time. The only point of this post is that nothing should limit Ukraine from attacking into Russia.


28 posted on 06/01/2023 9:44:15 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: old curmudgeon

“Self defense is one thing, crossing borders is quite different.”

You mean like Putin sending his army across an internationally recognized border?

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39 posted on 06/01/2023 11:16:01 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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